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Barry
I am not sure. I want opinions. I have not seen this in the 150 or the 460 cards. I need to check who are on the fronts when I see the different color. |
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one thing to note with this Sovereign back,I have noticed that the ones I have are cards that appear in the 350/460 series. Kinda like the AB no frame cards. I am not sure if a front can be found with both shades of green.
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I guess it would be pointless to issue a blank back-no ad there. So does that mean you don't need a blank back to have a complete set?
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No, i have a Chance yellow portrait that looks factory cut. I did trade away my Broadleaf 460 though.
![]() Like the sovereign shades, there's two distinct shades of Piedmont and also the lovely blue shade of Polar Bear, but I guess most collectors wouldn't include those either. |
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My understanding is that all Brown Old Mill Southerns are hand-cut. As they were probably never issued in packs, you may want to remove that one from your list.
Agree that the blank back should be removed. The Sovereign 350 Apple Green is interesting; worthy of further study. |
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thanks for all the kind words about the set.
Craig & Scot & Ted- more research needs to be done on the Sovereign 350 cards. We need to know what fronts come on the apple green and if the same front can be found with both colors. It is kanda interesting to see if 350-460 cards are the ones with this back. maybe just an ink problem, but it will be fun researching. Maybe not an ink problem. |
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Great collection of T-backs in your gallery and thanks for including the 1910 Coupon and Red Cross backs.
Regarding the "apple green" Sovereign backs....I looked over my all-Sovereign complete set of 407 cards, and this color variation appears to exist only on cards with Sovereign 350 backs. None of the 151 cards in the 150 Series in my set are "apple green". Furthermore, none of the 52 cards in the 460 Series are "apple green". Of the 204 cards in the 350 Series in my set, only 8 are "apple green". The duplicates I have of these part- icular 8 cards have the normal color green. This leads me to conclude that the "apple green" phenomena is random within the 350 Series cards and it most likely can be explained that a lighter color of Green ink was applied on certain press runs of the Sovereign 350 backs. In my opinion, these are not a legitimate variation, but just a printing anomaly. I'm not at home, therefore, I can't post any pictures. When we return, I'll scan some of the cards in my set. TED Z |
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Jim,
an absolutely top drawer collection. many thanks for making it available to us. and many thanks for rejuvenating the ole T206 juices on this board. I personally think that the apple green is not a 'must' for completing the set but is a printing process issue, as Barry S. intimates. I do not think that the Red Cross is 206 but would sure love to have one--- that in itself might well make me change my mind!!! I do believe the Coupon is a 206--- earlier threads on this topic convinced me well beyond anecdotal meanderings. With all the 'skinnings' going on in the last few years which created 'blanks', i gave up making a decision on the 'must' status of this card. Since it had no ad and therefore no real issuance for advertising purposes, it does make me lean toward leaving it out. Perhaps if i had one---as i said about the Red Cross--- that i was unequivocally certain was legit, then i might well change my mind!! Obviously, over this holiday, i am allowing the 'acquisition desire' have primacy over my sound judgement. great work, Jim all the best, barry |
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Wow-very impressive collection! I never realized how much of a 3D effect the Sweet Caps backs have-I guess my low grade backs don't pop!
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no doubt impressive collection. Its nice to see all those backs in one place, thanks for the share.
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Seeing all of those backs together is great and reminds me that within the past year an idea was introduced on the board to create a virtual master T206 set (on a separate Web site), with all of the possible front/back combinations. The idea was pooh-poohed by one or two folks and died on the vine. It's too bad, because it seemed like a worthwhile effort -- almost like posting a complete 1933 Goudey set in one thread, you might say.
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Jim,
Drop Blank (never distributed) and Old Mill Southern Brown (never distributed). Keep Sovereign apple green. Then you're complete IMO. Scot |
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In regards to Bob's post above, often times 350 series card can be found with the 3 over an effaced 1. Apparently they uses the same stones for early print runs of the backs.
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Bumping an old thread for some of the new members on a great discovery
by Jim with the Apple Green Sovereigns. Last edited by Pat R; 12-08-2015 at 07:20 PM. |
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