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Old 05-19-2009, 07:09 PM
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This auction was actually Mr. Lipset's at oldjudge.com.

http://www.oldjudge.com/?showpage=/a...47/&i=34&p=2#a

If you don't mind checking, what is the issue date of "The New Grounds of the Metropolitan Baseball Club On Staten Island"?

I wonder if Mr. Lipset's description of an "1883 Metropolitan" woodcut is accurate but wasn't posted in the auction's photo (not all the listed items were in the photo), or the 1883 year was simply a typo. Maybe he is referring to "The New Grounds..." woodcut which might be dated 1883?

I still hope to find any image of the 1883 Metropolitan team - woodcut, photo, etc. - so if anybody knows of one please let me know.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:12 PM
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Paul, you are quite welcome. When we're not being ornery, we can sometimes be helpful...

The New Grounds of the Metropolitan Base-Ball Club on Staten Island, should be dated May 15, 1886, page 300 from Harpers' Weekly, 9 1/2 x 14, about half a page. Mr. Lipset lists it that way in his Encyclopedia.

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Old 05-19-2009, 09:47 PM
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So I guess the conclusion is that it was a typo and no 1883 Metropolitans woodcut was offered in the auction. Too bad since I thought I finally found an image of this team.

"There are eight Harpers woodcuts, six of which have been beautifully hand colored. These include 1882 Metropolitans, 1882 Providence, 1865 Atlantics, 1882 Chicago, 1874 Boston and 1883 Metropolitans."
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Paul, unfortunately, that is my estimation, too. It looks like he got the year wrong. And while the colored woodcut of the ball park looks neat, it doesn't really show much of the team, whatever the year.

Did you win that lot?
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:59 PM
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I didn't bid on that lot - I just recently came across it when browsing the auction archives. Thanks again.
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Issue #14 of the Vintage and Classic Baseball Collector (Jan/Feb 1998) has all 41 Harper's baseball woodcuts pictured and dated. It's a great resource and would have answered all your questions.
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Barry,

I recall that issue. I knew there was a list with images of each published somewhere, but couldn't remember what it was in.

But if Paul had merely referred to issue #14 then we'd have missed out on this great exchange.
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