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Very nice job.
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John did amazing work and deserves a lot of credit. But Jim Rivera was the original driving force behind this scam. Though a few of us knew a few facts and had lots of suspicians, Jim actually came through with the game breaker. He tracked the source of all of the bad overprints to Chan. Jim first contacted me with the info and truthfully, the only credit I will take is that I knew who to get on the team immediately! John was my choice. He did an amazing job with the Nodgrass and now here.
John is very knowledgable, and the best at determing doctored cards. I truly thank you John. Dan |
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05-09-2009, 07:46 AM
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Mr. Chan might also consider shutting down his piece of crap website. I looked at it periodically but will never do so again.
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05-09-2009, 07:55 AM
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Well stated Barry!!! That crap site should be shut down! I looked at it and sent many corrections that I wish I wouldn't have. Patrick was ignoring me in the end as he knew we were on to him. I think I stated that in an update to the previous thread.
What still gets me is that no charges have been filed. I would think there has to be some punishment involved here somewhere. dan |
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05-09-2009, 08:01 AM
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A little andendum to John's recent post. I and I am sure we would also like to thank SGC for their cooperation and WILLINGNESS to listen to advanced collectors and then to immediately act and offer assistance.
If PSA had taken this attitude with the Nodgrass, they would have been looked upon as helpful. Instead, Joe had his grader re-examine the Nodgrass and said it was still legit, even after me, John and Rob Lifson stated it was bad. A true difference in service by the 2 leading grading companies in these particular situations. |
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05-09-2009, 08:05 AM
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John- I always thought Groundskeeper Willie was an accurate depiction of all Scotsmen- you mean he's a stereotype?
 Edited as what I posted is incorrect Last edited by barrysloate; 05-09-2009 at 08:11 AM. |
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05-09-2009, 08:12 AM
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jlynch1960,
My post Ho-lee crap was in no way intended to be an Asian reference. I never even thought about it, and the inference would never have occurred to me if you hadn't brought it up. I occasionally do things like Ho. Ly. Cow or Holy C-rap and things like that. Anyone that knows me or reads the boards knows that I would not do something like that. It was inadvertent. J (But while we are on the subject of stereotypes ... I am not an "old white guy"  )
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05-09-2009, 09:34 AM
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Great job
Thanks to John, Jim, and Dan for the time and effort put into this investigation. The expertise and passion of the members of this Board is unsurpassed.
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05-09-2009, 09:58 AM
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Ahhhhh sweet sweet irony...
http://www.t206museum.com/page/forgery.html http://www.t206museum.com/page/reprint.html Don't forget to donate. |
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05-09-2009, 10:03 AM
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It does need tobe known that the T206 Museum was created to promote these and all are fake.T206 Museum needs tobe gone.
I would like to thank Dan, John, Rob-REA, the FBI and SGC. I would also like to thank a few nameless collectores that helped in my research with these bar Old Millls. John -the overprint underpants was classic. There needs tobe some humor in this. |
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05-09-2009, 07:52 AM
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Dan is correct Jim tied Chan to the 3 of these cards that we knew of. Our FBI agent based on the info above thatI provided tied Chan finally to the site and the fake double overprint and bogus Old Mill find.
Jim and I began talking after Dan put us together. In fact Jim and I had talked mulriple times about the site and these cards. Jim and Dan had hunches and gut feelings regarding Chan the site but we really had no hard evidence. I have been curious about these from the first time I had seen one. I set out to win the REA example with hopes of proving once and for all these were legit or bogus as I thought. Luckly Jim, Dan and I rounded up on this. During our looking into this Rob Lifson and REA along with the owners of the Hart card allowed me to examine these cards in person. After reviewing the cards I had pretty solid evidence they were in fact bad enough. We also had enough evidence to send the FBI knocking. Big props go out to the Agent I dont think anyone of us Dan, Jim or I expected it to be this final outcome. Another huge thank you goes out to the owners of the Hart card who willingly helped us debunk thier own investment, and who also kept me and the FBI in the loop. I know Dan, Jim and I are happy to say they at least have been made whole. Great team effort by all. Jim on than Chan connection, Dan with the hook up and Wonka with the proof then add a dash of Rob top it with a large amount of Agent Badass and all crooks better look out there's a new A-Team on the block..LOL As for the Asian stereotypes I'm only quoting a classic 80's John Hughes film no offense needed to be taken, now if you don't mind as a Scot/Irish american I'm calling Fox about that damn Groundskeeper Willie! Also it should be noted that SGC needs a pat on the back. SGC had the guts to say they were unsure and asked for outside help before letting this card slide thru the cracks. I was very impressed with that! So thanks to Rob and SGC for sending me the Revelle. Last edited by wonkaticket; 05-09-2009 at 09:42 AM. |
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