Henry Chadwick tin type photo

bmarlowe1 · #1 05-06-2009, 02:51 PM

Corey - we do think alike, at least on some issues.

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BrockJacob · #2 05-06-2009, 02:55 PM

It has "Henry Chadwick" written vertically on the mans shirt.

benjulmag · #3 05-06-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BrockJacob

It has "Henry Chadwick" written vertically on the mans shirt.

That in and of itself is not enough, unless you know when and by whom that was written. A scam involving just this sort of thing occured in the Sotheby's Copeland sale some years ago. In that auction was a purported signed cabinet of Chadwick. The verso of the cabinet was signed "Henry Chadwick" thereby giving the impression both that the image was of him and he signed it. Well as it turned out the image was not of Chadwick and, needless to say, nor was the signature his.

This tintype image bears SOME resemblance to another known image of Chadwick (a cricket pose). The fact this tintype is not a baseball or cricket image, is concerning, and frankly so is the writing (why would anybody put it there other than to deceive). Bottom line to me -- without more I think there is little chance it is Chadwick.

BrockJacob · #4 05-06-2009, 04:11 PM

I certainly agree Corey, that the name penciled in means very little. But obviously that is what lead the original poster to believe it is Chadwick in the photo.

19cbb · #5 05-06-2009, 04:14 PM

Byron Baseball or Cricket?, 18... Digital ID: 56262. New York Public Library

Courtesy of the NYPL... which btw is asking for donations after facing over $50 million in budget cuts.

Btw, after handling a good bunch of tintypes, both baseball and non baseball related, I have to agree with Corey that the writing is simply a novice job to deceive.

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slidekellyslide · #6 05-07-2009, 08:45 AM

Where did the original poster go? I'd be interested in learning where he obtained the photo.

barrysloate · #7 05-07-2009, 09:01 AM

It's a man with a thick beard in a setting that has nothing to do with Chadwick's work as a sportswriter; it has a dubious identification which consists of a pencil notation identifying the man as Chadwick; and I am not convinced it is him.

This kind of spurious photo identification is not enough for me. My opinion is it is not Henry Chadwick.

barrysloate · #8 05-07-2009, 09:12 AM

One other point to consider is the men in the background have the kind of mustaches that were fashionable in the 1885-1890 era, which looks to be roughly the date of the tintype. At that time Henry Chadwick was pushing 65. I don't believe the man with the beard is much older than his forties.

orator1 · #9 05-07-2009, 10:29 AM

Side by side comparison.
Are there any facial features that indicate they are different people?
I'm no expert but they look the same to me.

Chadwick from NYPL.jpg maybe Chadwick.jpg

nyyanksghr · #10 05-13-2009, 08:27 PM

Wow I posted this last week and never checked back. I never dreamed that anyone would question this being Chadwick. I was just looking to see if there were other persons of interest in the photo. The photo is in fact Henry Chadwick. Provenance:The photo came to the market directly from his great grandaughter. If she is agreeable, I'll post her comments as I am in contact with her regularly. She got a kick out of anyone questioning that it was Henry. Some of you don't need to quit your day jobs to go into photo identification!

Her mother, Henry's granddaughter is believed to be the one who wrote his name on the photo. This was in their family and is the earliest known tintype of Chadwick. So, back to the original reason of the post: Does anyone recognize any of Henry' pals in the photo?