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Old 05-05-2009, 06:50 AM
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Hi Ted,
That depends on how many uncut sheets or "printer's samples" made it out the back door...

Be well Brian

PS So far we only have 2 Piedmont Wagner's and 3 Plank's, but more may show up....
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Old 05-05-2009, 02:46 PM
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Why do you doubt that the Piedmont Plank's are proofs ?

All 3 Plank's we have accounted for in this thread have the identical proof mark on the top border as does this repro
example of the Eddie Collins' proof.

Here's a "twist"......perhaps Collins, Plank and Wagner were all on the same sheet. And, when American Caramel Co.
prevented American Litho. from issuing Collins and Plank....Wagner was discarded in the process. I find it more than
just coincidental that the same number of Piedmont Plank's equals the same number of Piedmont Wagner's.



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Old 05-05-2009, 04:22 PM
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Hi Ted,
Perhaps we are splitting hairs, but I don't consider any cards with ad's on the back as proofs... I have always thought that Wagner and Plank were probably on the same sheet, but I have never had the evidence to prove it.
As far as the printer's mark goes... I have several examples of T205's and T206's with the same marks on more than one side. I will try to post a few when I have time, but anyone who owns an Irv Young will see these marks on 3-4 sides.... Be well Brian[IMG][/IMG]

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Old 05-05-2009, 08:17 PM
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Brian W. (tarheel bud),
i have gazed at my 2 irv young's (one from my favorite Lionel Carter Collection) thousands of times and have never noticed the marks before.
i quickly went to look at them with the help of a wee bit of a magnifier
(due to 58 years) and saw them with great glee.
many,many thanks.
once again, i sit humbly at your feet.

best,

barry
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:16 AM
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Thanks for the info on Young. My Piedmont Young has the mark.

But, my Sovereign Young does not.

Great stuff, guy.


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Old 05-06-2009, 07:41 AM
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Great question

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Were there other cards pulled with these, or was it only Wagner and Plank?

My theory is that, initially the T206 cards were printed on small sheets (possibly comprising of only 12 cards).
If American Litho. discarded these (1st press run) sheets with Plank and Wagner printed on them, then other
Subjects were discarded, also.

My guess is that some of the tougher cards in the 150 series were included, such as........

Burch (batting)
M. Brown (Cubs)
Cobb (green portrait)
Donlin (fielding)
L. Doyle (throwing)
Evers (bat-blue sky)
Lundgren (Cubs)
Mullin (horizontal)
Pelty (horizontal)
Reulbach (glove)
Schulte (Cubs)


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