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Old 05-01-2009, 11:40 AM
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it's a hypothetical - assume the facts are as offered.

David - you can't see a circumstance where two guys both badly want the card - if there are two of them then they aren't bidding against each other and if there is only 1 then they are?
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:08 PM
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I think everyone pretty much agrees that if a person can pay the bill, they can do what they wish with what they purchase, even destroy it.

That does not, however, make the person's actions right or even ethical.

The actions of Upper Deck and others in destroying many historical bats and jerseys in order to place small pieces of them in cards are a good example here. They may have paid the bill for what they destroyed, but I'd still love to give whoever came up with the idea a swift kick in the nuts.
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:26 PM
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Seems to me that if you locked one card away and advertised the other as the "only" card in existence that would be fraud.
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:53 PM
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I differentiate between hypothetical possible and hypothetical impossible. Hypothetical impossible go into the moot pile.

Besides, I said you should not destroy one card, and that was my opinion of the ethics.

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Old 05-01-2009, 01:07 PM
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Beyond the question of what is ethical, a question is when is if and when is it okay to act unethically? Does $10,000 and a dumb trading card come close? Is it okay to break baseball card ethics for $1 million? Duly note that this scenario doesn't involve lying or deception-- ala altering a card or hiding cards in a safe then lying about it. In this scenario, the seller accurately states at sale that there is only one card in existence. Does this say that the the practical result ($1 million) can be so enormous that it makes performing the unethical act okay? Even further, can the enormity of the gain transform an unethical act into an ethical one?

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Old 05-01-2009, 01:11 PM
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Fair enough

Is it limiting you to one edit per post?
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As I see it, it helps to make a few distinctions regarding ethics. In the scenario that Matt offers, the destruction of the valuable card or other item would be base, lowdown, petty, and altogether mean. But I wouldn't accuse the guy who destroys the card of injustice. He owns the card fair and square and can rip it up as he pleases. But it still shows bad taste and dubious character. As for David's question about whether a million dollar profit can make something ethical, I don't think it would. Overwhelming duress can excuse an unjust action, but it does not transform an unjust action into a just one. The same thing goes for a base or dishonorable action.
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