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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
David's inquisition.............. |
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Posted By: Mark Evans
Although I suspect that Bruce and I are very different -- from writing style to politics to views on criminal sentencing (death penalty for drug dealers?) -- I don't think he did anything wrong in purchasing the card and, beyond that, believe he makes a valuable contribution to the Board. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I don't think we should worry about that anymore personally...it is definitely trolling behavior and Bruce thrives on that kind of attention. |
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Posted By: JimB
"This is the problem with tenure." |
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Posted By: howard
That "poor, ignorant school teacher" obviously knew he had something valuable before Bruce ever contacted him. Otherwise the article through which Bruce found out about the card would never have been written. |
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Posted By: Tim
A few things. |
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Posted By: paulstratton
"I love the smell of napalm in the morning." ...it smells like victory. |
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Posted By: Mark H
I traded a 1964 Topps Rose in EXMT for 30 brand new Tony Gwynn rookies, because I knew he'd be worth more. |
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Posted By: Millerhouse
I'm a long-time lurker here, seldom a writer and a long-time friend of the Dorskinds. On the topic of the Matty Boston Garter, however, I can offer an extremely unique perspective and can't resist doing so, having known the schoolteacher long before the Bruces learned that he had the card. |
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Posted By: rand
now the last post was super. what this post was all about. |
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Posted By: Denny Walsh
I am so relieved.... In my weed smoking days I borrowed my older brothers car(Yeah Right |
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Posted By: bruce Dorskind
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Posted By: rand
hello dan, please share some great stories |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Great story Dan and Bruce. I didn't know that part of it. |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
Thank you very much, Dan, for the interesting and quite revealing story. |
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Posted By: peter ullman
Very entertaining video...and nice accompanying story to go with it. |
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Posted By: Ryan Christoff
David, |
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Posted By: bruce Dorskind
Once again the Nutty Professor adds his silly commentary |
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Posted By: jay wolt
"and we expect that the University |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
Peter, the only one here--other than the Bruces--familiar with the card at the time says, not only that he would have paid more, but that the Bruces paid "less than the market would have borne." |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
"Just cause a guy disagrees with you |
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Posted By: barrysloate
David- you're going too far with this. Bruce made an offer, Dan would have made a better offer. So what? |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
Barry--what part of Dan's statement that the Bruces paid less than market value don't you understand? |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Bruce and Dan both admitted that not only did they not know the true value of the card, they weren't even sure what it was. And given the time frame, there was no source material available to look it up. |
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Posted By: rand
i dont know who you are, you have added ZERO to my honest attempt for an interesting read. you want to bash bruce or someone else, start you own thread. this is bullsh!!! because i asked the question, we got a great video, an amazing response from someone that knew the story well, and possibly some more good stuff. instead i have to sift through a bunch of stupid posts responding to you. have some class, manners, and move on. |
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Posted By: PC
"And Bruces, I don't collect cards" |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
Hardly. |
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Posted By: rand
David, add something to MY thread or get lost, at the moment no one has any respect for you here. |
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Posted By: Jim VB
David, |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
You're right, Jim. I certainly never meant to hijack the thread. I felt I was defending my (admittedly unpopular) point of view. |
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm
"Sometimes even we have |
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Posted By: john/z28jd
If Dan really would've paid more for the card why at no point before that in all those years did he even make an offer for it? If he did make an offer then why would the teacher be shocked at an offer half as much as he would be willing to spend.....unless of course Dan never made a decent offer and he too was trying to get the card from him for cheaper than it was worth. His story doesnt add up,sounds like he was willing to supposedly put one over on the teacher too but didnt get his chance to and then afterwards says he would've offered twice as much. I can say I would've offered him $5k if I knew about the card now,doesnt mean its true just because I write it long after it was even possible.If I was really willing to pay a certain amount for a card I really wanted then I would make that offer at some point |
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Posted By: leon
"And rand, threads dont "belong" to their creators." |
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Posted By: JimB
Boston Garters are so scarce that there is not an established market value today, in the internet age of increased access to information and multiple public auctions. What is the market value of a Matty BG today? Nobody knows! $1400 was a hell of a lot of money for a baseball card in 1978! I think T206 Wagners were going for around 3k then. Bruce does not seem like he was cheating the guy. And the guy knew what he had. He had at least two serious buyers expressing interest for years. When the right offer came at the right time, he sold it. No crime was committed. Nothing unethical happened. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
What's the under/over on how many times David has been divorced? |
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Posted By: Millerhouse
"If Dan really would've paid more for the card why at no point before that in all those years did he even make an offer for it? If he did make an offer then why would the teacher be shocked at an offer half as much as he would be willing to spend.....unless of course Dan never made a decent offer and he too was trying to get the card from him for cheaper than it was worth. His story doesnt add up,sounds like he was willing to supposedly put one over on the teacher too but didnt get his chance to and then afterwards says he would've offered twice as much." |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
<<What's the under/over on how many times David has been divorced?>> |
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Posted By: Jerry
When a Person Constantly tells you he's not interested in selling a certain card, I don't think it's Proper or benefitual to start throwing offers out to him. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
David, that's some ironically thin skin you have there. I guess by your answer I'll take the over on whatever number you want to throw out. |
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Posted By: David Atkatz
I see it's the latter, Jeff. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
David, I guess it's better for your wife(s) and the dog that you get your anger out here. |
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Posted By: JimB
Jerry, |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I'm tempted here to give Jeff some material for his radio show tonight. |
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Posted By: Scott Levy
I don't even understand what the argument against Bruce would be here? In the 1970s $1400 was an absolute TON of money for any baseball card. Sure the card sold for a lot more, but any card purchased at that time would be worth much more today. My dad purchased a T206 Cobb in the mid 1980's which we just sold for almost 20x the purchase price, was that unethical? Of course not, it is just a reflection of how prices of vintage cards have appreciated over time. |
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Posted By: dan mckee
I agree, I am not a Bruces fan but I see absolutely nothing wrong with what he did here. At worst, maybe they could have been annoying at trying to get the Matty but we don't even know that. I am going to say the Bruces are in the clear here and did nothing wrong at all. Great card Bruce, Dan. |
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Posted By: CoreyRS.hanus
David, if nothing else you've managed to generate the greatest outpouring of support for Bruce he has ever garnered on this board. I'm tempted to invite him to that lunch I owe Barry for some bet he won. In his giddy mood, he might treat us both. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
when you say 'we' don't know that, do you mean there's more than one of you in the thread? |
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Posted By: Mark Evans
Thanks, David, for sharing your card/photo. Pretty neat. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Bruce is welcome to join us. |
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