|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: JK
This card is currently listed for sale on ebay. How does this get a 6? Is this a screw up or a switched card? |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: JimB
That has to be a switched card. PSA should be notified. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Lee Behrens
Looks like an 8 compared to this one: |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Fred C
The sad part about this is that the card was probably graded a "6". |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Anthony S.
Big Six looks alot more like a little three. |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Lee Behrens
Just wanted to add the T202 sold for $10,000 last I saw it sold. Expensive holder. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Fred C
You said it Lee... expensive holder... isn't that what a lot of this amounts to these days? Oh let me virtually shut up (stop typing) before I start a rant about grading, card prices and the subjectiveness of trained monkeys... |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: quan
looks like a 4...a psa5 white cap is around 1.1k. i will take the over on this one? |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: JK
Quan, |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: BcD
Do you have a copy of the "top 200" book? |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Scott Levy
Nice to see you back Lee B. |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: matt
It was probably a 6 when it first came out of the pack. Then, well.... |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: James Feagin
Probably graded by one of the 19 year-old girls that works there. |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Matt
If this was not a crack and replace job and this was actually sealed as such by PSA I would think there is quite a bit of money to be made by cracking and resubmitting vintage cards multiples of times until you get lucky - the cost of submitting is ~$15 and a grade jump is worth many times that. |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Doug
I wish whoever graded that would grade my submissions! |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Joe Jones
This card may have a 6 on the holder, but would it actually sell for 6 pricing? Who would pay more than vg or vgex for that card? |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
That's some crappy looking 4. |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: cmoking
What good will it do to notify PSA? 90% of the cards I've noticed problems with that I've sent to JO comes back "correctly graded, no problems" even when its obvious to any collector there is something wrong. |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Jim Dale
Ok this is probably that other 10% and if I read their terms right they might have to pay up. |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: bigfish
Might be an SGC 40? |
#21
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Steve D
The card does have decent centering and has some honest looking wear. With that said I think it is a hi end 3, or, on a good day a 4. |
#22
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Paul Grubor
Someone should contact Joe Orlando and complain! This card is a 3 at best. Is that a hint of paper loss on the bottom left? Its kind of like that Aaron Rookie that was an 8 with a print flaw and 2 dinged corners. Geez, If thats a 6 I need that grader to be my best friend. I'd be retired and set for life! |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: cmoking
My experience has been that the 90%/10% is completely random. In other words, there's a very high chance they'll say "good card, correctly graded". Go ahead, someone buy it and send it to them and try it. I dare you. |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Doug
This is right off the PSA website: |
#25
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Steve Murray
Old news, but possibly relevant to discussion. |
#26
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Glen Turner
I would like to think that the grading companies do the best job they can grading a card, but like I have always said whether they grade your card 2 or 4 or 6 or whatever bottom line your money is in their pocket. |
#27
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Jordan
First off, I would like to stand up for our company, for anyone that is accusing us of switching cards, altering holders etc, We are an honest company that submits cards, and receives them back, and lists them. We do not alter items, switch items, or do anything that is dishonest in this small industry that still exists today. |
#28
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Steve D
Jordan fair enough, and yes, it is mostly all on PSA, however, when the card came back a 6 and you sent it in thinking it was a 3 (or a 4 at best) didn't you at that time scratch your forhead? And say to yourself "what is going on here'? |
#29
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Jordan
And that is the exact reason I put a LARGE Scan for people to see exactly what they are getting. |
#30
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Steve D
Jordan |
#31
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: leon
Read what the title says. That is what this thread is about. It has nothing to do with the seller....who has graciously come onto the board and expressed himself rather well. |
#32
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Jordan
Thanks, |
#33
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Rob Dewolf
Leon, |
#34
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: brian
Does anyone know why SCD stopped grading cards? |
#35
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Glen Turner
Brian: |
#36
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: leon
You are right. I missed the implication of card switching....I didn't think that happened to that holder...but I understand the defensive response. I am sure it will be ok. I do think PSA owes Jordan an explanation... |
#37
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: JimB
I did not mean to imply anything about the seller when I said that the card had to have been switched. I just seemed so off that I would not think PSA would have given that card a 6. I, personally, did NOT presume that the seller switched it. For all I know, he may have been duped or thought it was accurately graded (or close enough). Now he has been honest and up front about what happened. Apparently PSA did give it a 6. I was wrong about their grading. I never intended to accuse the seller of anything. He seems like a honest guy. |
#38
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: cmoking
As far as I'm concerned, all the seller (or any seller) can do is present a card without hiding anything. The big scans in this auction is fine and presents the card as it truly is. For collectors that want to pay more, why stop them? |
#39
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: leon
The seller isn't really obligated to do anymore than show big front and back scans....If someone wants to buy the holder instead of the card it's certainly their right to do so. I have a few cards that way and don't feel bad about selling an overgraded, encapsulated card. I am not the one that put the grade on it....BIG SCANS are almost always good enough for me to make a buying decision......I would guess the card would sell for less than a real 6 though..... |
#40
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Doug
Yeah, you can't really fault the seller because the grading company overgraded his card. The scans speak for themselves unless someone really wants that PSA 6 holder at a discount for their registry set or something, but that's a whole other topic... |
#41
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Steve D
In this case I agree that the seller had made a large scan and that was all he needed to do, however that is not to say that any other seller can just scan an over graded card and be in the clear. If a problem exists he/she should also describe such problem that maybe a scan will not show. I am sitting on such a card right now a 55 Topps Koufax rookie graded PSA 8 that the seller did not fully describe and I now have the lemon. Instead of hyping the card (like mine did) he could have described the paper loss that sits right between Koufax's eyes. One day I'll send it to J.O and see what he does. If anyone wants to see it I have it on the registry. WINPITCHER 55 set. |
#42
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Fred C
psa SUCKS! |
#43
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: cmoking
With the problems that PSA has, I'd still MUCH rather buy a PSA graded card online (i.e, I can't see the card in person...and I'm buying from a total stranger), than a raw card. So while we (me included) complain about them, IMO, it is still much better they are around than not. |
#44
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Steve, most of the auction houses don't specifically mention paper loss. They just show scans of the card in the slab. You believe that ebay sellers be held to a higher standard than auction houses? |
#45
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Steve D
Jeff I hear ya. |
#46
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: barrysloate
Despite the large scans, it wouldn't hurt if the seller also put in his text that the card is improperly graded. Then at that point I would say he has given full disclosure, and bidders can bid as they choose. |
#47
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Jordan
Barry, |
#48
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: barrysloate
Wasn't suggesting you were hiding anything. I think PSA just needs to correct an error. |
#49
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Steve Murray
"Despite the large scans, it wouldn't hurt if the seller also put in his text that the card is improperly graded. Then at that point I would say he has given full disclosure, and bidders can bid as they choose." |
#50
|
|||
|
|||
A PSA 6 ?????
Posted By: Alan Elefson
Hi- |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
1953 Howell RC PSA 7 1961 DeJordy RC PSA 7 1965 Cheevers RC PSA 7.5 For Sale | Archive | Everything Else, Football, Non-Sports etc.. B/S/T | 0 | 01-15-2009 10:30 AM |
FS-T207's Mullin No D PSA 6 (highest graded),McDonald PSA 6 (1 higher), Henry PSA 3 | Archive | Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T | 2 | 12-03-2007 05:30 AM |