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CAREFUL FAKES and DECEIPT
Posted By: dan mckee
Please don't yell at me if this has already been posted. I do not have the time to read as much as I would like to. This seller is posting decently doctored fakes with deceiving titles. He has reprint buried in his description so I can't get these booted off of ebay but this is a filthy practice and can easily burn new members to the card world. He is from Ohio where a majority of the decent faked memorabilia has been coming from. I imagine it is the same source producing these. |
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Posted By: Matt
Dan - this seller is easily the largest peddler of vintage reproduced cards on ebay. He has hundreds of listings going at any given time and he is oh so very sneaky. At one point, he intentionally mispelled the word reprint buried in the item description so that if you did a description search to avoid the wor dreprint, his auctions would still be shown to you. Since ebay doesn't allow us to block users from our browsing, I have found that I now just ignore any auction that charges $4.00 shipping. |
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Posted By: JK
You will miss an awful lot of legit auctions if you ignore any with shipping at $4.00. |
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Posted By: Matt
JK - so far I've been watching for 2 weeks and haven't missed a single legit auction. Obviously, I wasn't looking at every single listing - only the ones I was interested in, but so far, the $4 shipping rule has worked for me, silly as it may seem. |
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Posted By: dstudeba
Any Wilson Franks card with a boarder that wide should be avoided. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
If you take 5 seconds and read the listing it says the card is a reprint |
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Posted By: Matt
boxingcardman - if you take 5 seconds and read the OP you'd know we were already aware of that. |
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Posted By: JK
Well Matt, |
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Posted By: Matt
JK - you misunderstood - shipping exactly AT $4 not ABOVE $4. |
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Posted By: JK
BTW Matt, Adam (boxingcardman) has been around and contributed to this board a lot longer than you - I'd suggest checking the attitude at the keyboard. Ive noticed you like to be a bit confrontational. I think you will find that taking that approach with regulars will, over time, result in many board members ignoring your requests for information, help, etc. |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
I just concluded three dozen auctions where the shipping was $4.00 about ten days ago. Sorry I missed ya. |
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CAREFUL FAKES and DECEIPT
Posted By: JK
"shipping exactly AT $4 not ABOVE $4" |
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Posted By: Matt
Todd - I'm sorry I missed you as well - I'm sure the rule isn't perfect - it's just a convenient thing for me, but perhaps I'll have to devise some other scheme to avoid the reprint auctions. |
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Posted By: anthony
i've come to the conclusion that if the buyer isnt reading the description that says something along the lines of "doesnt say reprint on the card" or does say "reprint" in the description |
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Posted By: dan mckee
All very good points guys but please can we just get along? I posted this as a heads up, not to start a fight. Unfortunately with 35+ auction catalogs on my desk and 20+ ebay categories to go through, I do not read entire descriptions as I should and I figured maybe some other people do not either. Yes that is my fault I guess but an honest seller should have REPRINT in his title and not buried in a long description in multiple colors. This guy is pure trash in my book. Adam you are correct but it still seems deceiving to me the way he posts his auctions. Though I absolutely do not want to argue with you, I have seen you in action in a professional setting and I know I would have my rump handed to me! Also as Matt suggested above, this seller was purposely misspelling the word reprint in his descriptions at one point. That tells me his actions are deceiving. Matt I thought Adam deserved that small shot you gave him, and don't sweat it, Adam doesn't have a glass jaw, he is the man! |
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Posted By: Shanon Ping
Hey, I just wrapped up 10 or so auctions on ebay and I charge $4.00 shipping. All legit pre-war stuff, don't give all of us a bad rep, but I understand the point you are making. |
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Posted By: Matt
$4 rule has been forgotten!! |
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Posted By: JK
I dont know how to best avoid that one seller without eliminating a lot of other possible auctions from your search. Tough call - either limit your search and avoid one fraud but also some legit sellers, or dont limit and weed through the junk with the good stuff. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Ebay needs to make one simple rule for all sellers of reprints and reproductions. The word Repro needs to be in the title or the auction will be ended. I'm sick and tired of wasting my ebay search time clicking on deceptive titles. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
and you won't be fooled. If you don't know the characteristics of the cards you are buying, stick to slabbed cards or cards from known sellers with integrity above reproach. |
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Posted By: dan mckee
ok Adam, so are you stating that these auctions are not deceiving? Or just that the poor sap's that may get burned should be at fault because the word reprint is in the description? I can see your point, technically and legally the seller has protected himself. Morally he is trying to rip people off. Dan. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Any auction for a repro card that does not contain the word REPRO in the title of the auction is deceiving. PERIOD. |
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Posted By: Kenneth A. Cohen
The appalling English notwithstanding, the guy is pretty crafty, I think. IMO, he interjects this to induce the notion that his card is perhaps an original that has "slipped through the cracks." Pretty slimy. |
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