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Old 06-12-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Thank you ..... Joe D.

Posted By: Joe Pelaez

"And, consider this.....they must of been in a real hurry to issue this card. As they didn't even bother to redo the plate to say "Amer." (or "American" like the Demmitt (NY) card).
But, I ask you.....why were they in a hurry ?
Joe Doyle's pitching career was over in 1910. He pitched in less than 10 games."

Regards,
TED Z

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Ted, I have to chuckle a little, and please consider it a friendly chuckle, and not a malicious one.

When you said: ... "And, consider this".
It sounded like if you were addressing me as a Johnny come lately, as to the question of why didn't the pressmen correct the league designation on the printing plate?
I've been asking that question since I got my Doyle in 1987.
On the other hand, it isn't that very long ago that you've become a Slow Joe Doyle believer.

Why, it's maybe a year or two that you had a debate with Barry S. about Joe Doyle.
He was pro, and you were con.

As for Joe Doyle, we can't really go by his career numbers.
In five years, he had a 22 and 22 record, then arm problems did him in, in 1910.

The only real picture we can get of the man, is by his peers.

Pitcher Jack Chesbro, of 41 wins 12 loss fame in 1904, was a big fan of Slow Joe.

Pitcher - Mgr Clark Griffith, Doyle's first manager with the Highlanders, liked him so mush, that when he went to manage the Reds, he took Doyle on the team.
He was hoping that Doyle would overcome his arm trouble in 1910.
It didn't happen.

No one was more happier than Ty Cobb, when Slow Joe got his arm problems.
Doyle drove Cobb sane.
Slow Joe's pitching delivery were of the extreme deliberate kind.
One could read War and Peace, in between pitches.

An example.
During the late forties and early fifties, I got to see Spud Chandler, Red Ruffing, Bevans, Spec Shea, Allie Reynolds, Raschi, Whitey Ford and a guy by the name of Steady Eddie Lopat.

Steady Eddie had three pitches.

Slow.

Slower.

And SLOWEST.

Legend tells us that he once threw a pitch in da Bronx, that was so slow, that the batter was able to measure it off and take three good swings at it, before the ball reached home plate.
The silence in the Bronx park was deafening.
The batter was not to be seen, except for his cap in front of home plate.

He had screwed himself into the ground.

Now back to Slow Joe Doyle, and Cobb.
Doyle died in 1947, Tannersville, N. H.
According to some of the old timers, to try to compare Slow Joe Doyle and Steady Eddie, wouldn't even be close.

Steady Eddie in comparison to Slow Joe, would look like Bob Feller.

Cobb was glad to see Slow Joe go to the Reds.

Best regards.
Joe

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