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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Mike Snyder
How does www.707sportscards.com do it??? |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
He lists them on like the ten cent listing days. All he has to do is sell a couple cards for way more than they are worth to make up for it...which he does. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Joe D.
it is a monthly fee as opposed to a per listing fee. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: brian
think of all the time it takes to list that many lots! software can only do so much of the work, right? |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Bobby Binder
Has to be all software sorry to say because between 707 and Keppler they have almost 20,000 ilstings of over priced cards. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: peter chao
Brian, |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Trae R.
Scanning that many cards would be one tough job too... must have some sort of feeder or third party bulk scanning service. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Cobby33
"Over-priced cards" is putting it mildly. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
And if they sell a card or two, it has paid for itself... |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Cobby33
We all have. But I'm amazed that some of these businesses stay in business, profiting from the occasional, whimsical spontaniety of some of us- especially when they list 36 of the same card. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: dennis
the thing that really is amazing about these listings is why not at least have a "BEST OFFER". i would think a "seller "would like to "sell" a few items? imagine to see all your listings out there with no bids!logically you'd have to figure,gee maybe i'm overpricing this stuff? also if you are a buyer and see all this guys listings w/no bids it does not make you feel good about actually buying something. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Robert Reiss
The bigger question is "How does everyone else deal with wading through it all?" I can't wait until they all end. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Bobby Binder
In tracking for the site we ignore those sellers so that it does not get infested with auctions that never sell and people don't want to see. So searching for the cards by player or set is a lot easier. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: rand
I dont mind high prices for tough or key cards, but his prices are 5 times what a common 33 goudey sells for..he want $400 for a common that sells for $80 - 100 on auction. its just rediculous. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Mike
If Ebay wants to implement a real good policy, on bargain listing days, limit each account to 10-20 listings. Eliminate all the clutter while still promoting business. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Brian
Limiting each account to 10-20 items would be a ridiculous idea. Levi sold over 500 cards this week during the special. Not only did eBay get 17,000 insertion fees, but they got final value fees on $55,000 worth of cards. There are even some deals to be had from Levi. How about the card that was $75 in his store last week but sold for $250 when five people got into a bidding war. Or the $250 hockey card that you could've had last week but it jumped to $610 during bidding. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Ed
I find his starting bids insulting. I guess he knows what he's doing. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Brett
I'd like to know how that seller comes up with those prices... |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
I would say he looks at recent sales...and adds 35% or so...just like some of the ridicilious prices you see at card shows. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Jason L
because sometimes browsing Levi's pages can be hard to stomach, but having said that, I recognize that most of my problem is my own jealousies -of his inventory, and as well as his luxury of patience in turnover...I have only dealt with him once, and he was a pleasure...got a couple of cards for me that I had been looking for for about 15 years! I paid up and I got the goods. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: peter chao
Dave, |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
I can't imagine any dealer not knowing current market values for cards...after all if they are dealers that is their career we are talking about..not a side hobby. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Cobby33
I think that one fails the market test when their inventory shows up week after week after week at the same starting bid. This is not to say that they are ALL unreasonably priced- but I think with some of these sellers, the majority of their stuff simply doesn't move at the prices demanded. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Mike Snyder
I looked through many of the cards on Ebay as well as the ones on his site. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Jim Clarke
Ole Levi at 707. I can remember at the Atlanta National when I was interested in a 5K card. I asked him what is the best price he could do on it and he said "what is the price on the back" I said 5K and he said, "that would be the price then" as he was putting it back into the case. I think he was stereo typing me as I was wearing shorts and a t-shirt. I have never seen him before until that moment... All I can say to Levi is Buh bye.. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Mark L
What is the tee-shirt and shorts stereotype? Isn't that how everyone dresses at shows? More importantly, how should one dress to get a serious price from 707? |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: peter chao
Mike, |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: scgaynor
"I can't imagine any dealer not knowing current market values for cards...after all if they are dealers that is their career we are talking about..not a side hobby." |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
Sorry to differ here..but I must. I hardly think today's climate makes for it being that difficult for dealers to see what current prices are for pre-war cards...instead, much easier. Dealers either know the current values....or for some reason all seem to get lucky as heck marking things up just above current values. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: barrysloate
Dave- I have to agree with Scott here. I sell vintage cards full time and it is very hard to keep up with prices in such a volatile market. That's why I auction just about everything- the market knows the value better than I do. Sure, I can distinguish a rare card from a relatively common one, but coming up with an exact price can be tough. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
Barry...but most dealers aren't selling E107's or Just So Tobacco's....I would just have to think when they are selling T206's...they certainly know the ballparks that these cards are going for... |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: barrysloate
I know the general value of most cards, and certainly know which ones are tougher than others. But sets seem to get hot overnight and it's hard to keep up. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
I totally agree on a case such as a Huggins with an upside down back...as well as any of the rare cards...would be impossible to pinpoint prices for any of that. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
I'm not really grouping you in with a Levi obviously. You run clean auctions...what he does is far from that...and I don't mean that to say he isn't honest...he may be...he just has his head a little higher in the clouds. More than likely the PSA 5 T206 Jimmy Collins with a regular Piedmont back that he tries selling for $525 is a card that he purchased himself for $200. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Cobby33
Good question...I've had the same experience, without doing the good deed Peter did. I've seen many dealers put out "their" cards that are not for sale and only bother to tell you then after you ask how much they want. Or- they'll say that they're not inclined to sell it, unless you make them a "ridiculous offer." Whatever. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Mark
It seems obvious to me that Levi needs to charge more than other sellers because he has more into his cards. How else can he hope to recoup the 10+ insertion fees he's incurred on many or most of his 17,000 cards? |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Josh Adams
More than likely the PSA 5 T206 Jimmy Collins with a regular Piedmont back that he tries selling for $525 is a card that he purchased himself for $200. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: barrysloate
I don't know Levi personally but there is nothing unethical about asking too much for an item; the buyer can always pass. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: leon
To say a dealer knows the prices/values of all esoteric cards in the pre-war category is, to say the least, not realistic. Sure a T206 common in vg is probably easy to give a close approximation. But take any of the more obscure stuff and forget about it...ya never know. I can't say how many times I have been surprised at how much something has sold for in the last few years. I feel like I follow the market for obscure stuff almost as much as anyone and I still don't have a clue half the times. On the Levi 707 subject I would say I have done 10 deals with him...never paid full price but usually close...and he has always been very pleasant. No excuse for being rude and I am not making one for him if he was. I know I have been rude before but try not to be too often. On the subject of bringing cards to shows that aren't for sale I used to bring part of my collection to the National for show and tell. I had numerous people tell me they really appreciated me doing it and loved seeing them. After the first year I made little sign saying they weren't for sale. Before that Scott B wasn't too happy with me.... .....Everyone would ask him how much for so and so....only for him to tell them they weren't for sale. That must have been sort of a downer but I did rectify it at future Nationals. Now I don't do it so I can drink more beer and not think about having the liability of having them with me...regards |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: barrysloate
Leon- in your case you were bringing your collection to show so it's pefectly reasonable to say "not for sale." |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Dave F
I don't at all disagree with get as much as you can. Sounds great to me...I try to do it myself on my limited budget I have for cards. I do think though someone like Levi who may put 15,000+ cards on ebay would probably do a little better if he even went down to 10% over what the cards go for. He's a big time dealer..reputable, and I think would have alot more sales that way. I would agree with a prior statement about "why wouldn't he at least but a space for best offers along with his BIN's...but I guess the time it would take to go through best offers for that many cards is just unrealistic unless he has a 15-20 man staff. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Bobby Binder
Barry, |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Brian
I'm sure Levi's not hurting. If he's in a cash crunch, he can just liquidate any one of his ten 52 Topps Mantles and survive another day. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: barrysloate
Apparently it works for him, but you have to be able to tie up an incredible amount of money. I need more of a cash flow. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Cobby33
Most people in my reality do... |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: leon
Levi might not even know about the board or that I am the moderator. I have rented cases from him, with Scott, at the last several Nationals so that might play into it. I have done deals long before I began moderating and also since I have. Like I say it wasn't a lot but usually about 10%....At the last National I made a deal on a Gasslers bread card right when Ted G walked up to buy it....I really don't think he thinks of anything except business when doing deals....as most business people should. I have always had a good rapport with him so that might help too. I know I will sometimes make a better deal for someone that is nice over someone that is an arce....regards |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: Brian
A price break from Levi isn't unheard of. I've called on cards from his site, offered to send a MO or check, and received 5-10% off...higher end of the range if multiple cards were involved. |
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Hundreds of pre-1930 cards on Ebay
Posted By: peter chao
A discount of 10%. So if Levi charges twice the market price. Then with the discount your only paying 80% more than the market price. That's not bad. |
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