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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bryan Long
I haven't posted in a while and plus it is always nice to see some great conversation about cards every now and then I know we talked about every set you can think of at least a dozen times. I have recently started collecting the e93 set only. I have decided to go after one set at a time since I, for the most part, have no expendable income for cards anymore. Since collecting the set it has become my new favorite. I'm not sure why, but this has very much caught my eye - whether it be the color or the amount of HOFers in the set I'm not sure. I know Jim has some very nice looking e93 cards that I wish I had, but I thought I would try and start some dialog about this set. How other collectors feel about it, what draws them to the set and how easy it was for them to complete - if they have completed it. After about two months of working hard on the set I am about half way through. Obviously the big three in the set (Cobb, Wagner and Matty) will be difficult, but I am assuming that if you had the cash on hand you could almost complete this set in a matter of weeks. Agree? Disagree? |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Steve f
Nice looking 2's. It's a great looking set. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bryan Long
Thanks for the compliment on the cards. The cards are really nice for 2s, I think on the front. Great color. The Waddell has a banged up lower right corner that you can't see by the scan. Plus the Young has the MK and a some paper loss on the back. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Dave
What is the going rate right now for common 2's? |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bill K
Nice to see you post again Bryan! I couldn't agree more about the E93's. I like them the best because they are VERY accurate representations of the players (with good poses) and have outstanding color and backgrounds. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Josh Adams
Bryan, |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bryan Long
I was bidding a very bad beater lot of 5 commons on ebay only last week. My snipe was set at $175 which was above what I thought it would go for. The lot was a beater lot for sure, but I needed every card. I was outbid. Most of the 2s that I have watched have been going for $125 all the way up to $170. I was a little sticker shocked at first with the prices that the cards were going, but have managed to pick up almost every card I have from members of this board for pretty much what I would have paid on ebay or maybe a little less in some circumstances. Plus, I have also gotten a few good deals every now and then on ebay, but that doesn't happen often anymore. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bryan Long
I have seen a couple of the blank backed cards on the bay, but haven't pulled the trigger yet on them. What is the real story behind them? I thought it would be a nice addition to the set when it is completed. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: mark
Although that card is a SGC 10 it still looks very nice and colorful, can't beat the price also. I am sure you will complete the set and wish you luck. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Jerry
My Lone E93...I'm going to send off for grading...Probally a 2 but one can hope for a 3. The back is clean with no paperloss. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Brett
I was trying for the set just before the prices went through the roof. I've got given up on the e93s... |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bob
Bryan- I don't know what you paid for the 2 cards but they sure look nice. Congrats. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bryan Long
Thanks for the kind words Bob. The set is not as hard as some that is for sure - but it sure is a beauty. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Jeff Mohler
Since I am from Lancaster, PA - Home of the e93 set, I guess I have to collect it. The prices sure are high, but the cards are really beautiful too, so maybe they cancel each other out. The five I do have (Gibson, Dooin, Leach, Collins and Ames) are pretty much beaters. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bryan Long
If you want to part with the Gibson and the Ames, shoot me an e-mail. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: JimB
Bryan, |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: JimB
I just love this set. By the way, I think Chance is probably the toughest card in the set. Don't know why. They were all printed on a single sheet, so presumably in equal numbers. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Bryan Long
I have been waiting for you to show off your e93 cards. It is about time I just love looking at those - they are amazing! YOu can post them whenever you feel like it. Even the rough cards that have very little front affect look great. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: JK
e93s are definitely my favorite set as well. To answer some questions - collins, IMO, is one of the worst looking cards in the set. Its also not Eddie Collins that is pictured - I believe the consensus is that its Jimmy Collins (at least its still a HOFer). As for the blank backs, I dont believe they are considered "proofs." Rather, they seem to have all been hand cut from sheets that did not have printing done on the reverse - I think many dont consider them proofs because there is no evidence of alignment marks on the cards. Maybe the shees were printers scraps - I dont really know. I have a couple and, like Jim B. tend to think they are rarer than what the common belief may be. I know he's done it before, but hopefully Jim B. can expand on this. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Brett
I only have a couple decent looking e93's. The Jennings is trimmed, but besides that, its a pretty nice card. The Jones is one of my better caramels (most are beaters) |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Jimi
...finally see you posting again, Bryan! Someone post the Collins. You're all talking about it, so someone post it! Great looking cards, and thanks for not showing the backs of those 2s. I'd hate for you to ruin the beauty of the fronts. Great finds, Bry! |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: JK
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Paul
My favorite too, but I don't own a single one of them. How can that be? All of those cards posted above look awesome. Great colors & images. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: B.C.Daniels
http://www.psacard.com/set%5Fregistry/display_cards.chtml?rsetid=14832&alltime=yes&rank=4&tied=0&requesttimeout=9999 |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: barrysloate
After reading the post above about the Eddie Collins card, and looking at the picture Josh provided, I agree there is no way that is a depiction of him. It barely looks like Jimmy either. I think this is no different than the E97/98 Cy Young card. At some point collectors just have to accept that many of these drawn likenesses look nothing like the player they are supposed to be. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: JK
Barry, |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: James Feagin
I agree that the color of E93's are outstanding, particularly the Griffith card. However, how many uncut sheets are out there? I've seen two for auction within the past year and there are undoubtedly more which have been cut over the years. I'm quite leery of these blank-back "proofs" which show up on ebay and am equally as hesitant at the more frequent high-grade examples which have surfaced. The dimensions of these cards vary so much as to make it seem suspicious that many examples-graded and otherwise, are sheet-cut. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: barrysloate
I have always assumed that every hand drawn card had to be produced with the artist looking at a photograph of the player and basing his rendering on that image. No way an artist created a likeness from memory. Whether it is a colorization of a photo or a recreation of a photo, that I don't know. Good question. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: JK
James, |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: barrysloate
Josh- thanks for the clarification. So how were T206's made? The portraits were generally borrowed from the Horner cabinets- were they an artist's rendition or just photographs colored over? And how were the action poses done? |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: steve yawitz
It's one of my favorites too. I'm just over 50 percent into the set. This might be my favorite card - at least so far: |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: Kevin
"As for the blank backs, I dont believe they are considered "proofs." Rather, they seem to have all been hand cut from sheets that did not have printing done on the reverse - I think many dont consider them proofs because there is no evidence of alignment marks on the cards. Maybe the shees were printers scraps - I dont really know. I have a couple and, like Jim B. tend to think they are rarer than what the common belief may be." |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: JK
since the blank back e93s are all handcut and generally sell for less than a similarly conditioned card with a grade (and no trim), I'd say its highly unlikely that any of them are doctored to make them look like blank backs. |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: paulstratton
If a card has a nice front and some sort of back damage, would making it a blank back increase the value? |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: JimB
"However, how many uncut sheets are out there?" |
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e93 Standard Caramel - my new favorite set
Posted By: barrysloate
Jim- I know who has the complete sheet and I agree it will never come up for sale. |
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