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Posted By: Dylan
Todays hobby produces a plethora of game used cards of vintage greats( I know the post doesnt deal with pre-war cards, but certainly the individuals on them). Now with past players there's only so much of these game used jerseys and bats and pants to go around. Especially when we talk of players from the turn of the century, this stuff is scarce! How long can the card companies of today sustain a release of Cobb and Ruth and Gehrig, etc. game used materials? I personally think its a bit of a shame that these jerseys are being cut up into little pieces and glued onto baseball cards. I know that it makes their product more valuable and Im all for them cutting up todays players jerseys if they want, there are many more of these around, but to cut up one of Ruth's few remaining Yankees jerseys seems a bit of a travesty. Whats the opinion on this being done, and how long it can be sustained in the hobby? one hundred years from now I hope we arent going to see the last Ruth or Cobb jersey being auctioned off to be made into baseball cards, IMO. |
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
I think that the DNA remnants from these articles should be seperated out when the items are pieced up for cards, and accumulated for future auction. How much would you spend for a one gram sample of Babe Ruth? |
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Posted By: steve f
'Timeless Treasures', what a contradiction. IMO it's criminal. When they run out of fabric, hickory and ash what's next?.. Swatches of remains from within the players coffins? |
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Posted By: Brett
Considering that Upper Deck has "Authenticated" Fake Autographs, i'm betting that alot of those "Game Used" crap isn't the real thing. I mean how can anyone tell that the little piece of bat on the card is actually from Babe Ruth or Ty Cobb ??? Just because Upper Deck says it is ??? It could be from a bat used anywhere. Its just the inside of the bat for god sakes, i don't see anything special about it. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
Brett's point is legitimate. At least with an Upper Deck Ruth signature, the |
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Posted By: Paul
Such cynics. Topps is VERY responsible when it comes to shredding historic artifacts. A Topps executive said so in an interview in SCD. He explained that Topps would never destroy a historically important artifact unless there was really good money in it. For example, Topps acquired a game used Burleigh Grimes jersey, and then found out that it was the only one in the world. After realizing there wasn't a whole heck of a lot of money in Burleigh Grimes insert cards, Topps sent the uniform to the Hall of Fame. On the other hand, when Topps acquired a game used Josh Gibson bat, Topps concluded that turning it into splinters could yield big bucks because Josh Gibson cards could be the marquee cards in a set. So Topps decided to cut it apart despite its historic significance. It's all a question of balance. |
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Posted By: Dylan
I would imagine that topps or UD wouldnt be in the habit of producing fake relic cards, if one person leaked this info from the inside it could destroy their reputation and their value, too much risk, and they already are raking the money in using the real pants and shirts anyways. It may end up that this decade is as good as its ever gonna get for "relic" cards. Like i said limited supply to last for year after year. The primo relic cards produced this decade may increase tremendously over the years due to their rarity. That gehrig card with the letter from the inside of the pants arent going to be made year after year decade after decade, there's only so many logo gehrig game used pants in the world. |
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Posted By: James Feagin
FYI---The Gibson bat wasn't actually game-used, but that's beside the point. |
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Posted By: James Gallo
I think you need to look at the size of that patch, wood chip or whatever. It's small, really small. so when you cut up a big jersey you get A LOT of small pieces. This is why the companies can pay the stupid money for a big name pieces just to cut it up. |
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Posted By: jP
in the end its all about money boys |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
to the instant gratification, lottery-style life that some people lead. I've been guilty to a certain extent of buying some new stuff, although I'm in a 12 step program and quit......recovering now.... |
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Posted By: Josh Adams
I personally do not have a problem with these game used insert cards, if in fact they are "game used!" Perhaps a younger kid who likes to rip open Upper Deck or Donruss will want to learn more about the older players on these cards, and draw him into learning about the history of the game, and maybe even vintage issues. |
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Posted By: Kenneth A. Cohen
Tom hits on an interesting point about which I happened to be talking to a fellow board member the other day. These inserts serve as a vehicle for the sports card industry's version of gambling. When you pay $15+ for a shot at a 1 of 1 whatever, it's akin to playing insta-scratch or mega-lotto. Nothing inherently wrong with that I suppose, just call it what it really is. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
is cheap by today's standards.........$50, $100 and $500 packs. Funny to see a 45 year old guy shaking when he opens a $500 pack and gets 5 jersey cards of some NBA schmucks........but hey.....they are low numbered--right? I bet he can go right to ebay and turn them for, say......$100 or so total. |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
Upper Deck has made a few mistakes with the autographs, all identified as the |
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Posted By: bill
I wouldn't be surprised if some day the geniuses |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
My whole bat 2nd opinion story is about an 1800s bat I purchased from one of |
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Posted By: t206king
Whats next to be honest? Inserts usually go down in value, i bought a game used bat card of yogi berra. at the time they were going for like 25-30 bucks a card when they first started putting this crap on cards. now i can barely get 10 for it. people say they will go up in value but i dont see it. only the big big names will go up (Gehrig, Ruth, Aaron etc etc). |
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Posted By: jP
t206king very funny but honest. |
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Posted By: Dylan
Its obvious that all of the insert cards made in the beginning have lost value. Only the rarest of inserts, players like Ruth, Gehrig, Foxx, Etc. can you get any insurance that it will maintain some value. It seems today that if it isnt a giant 10 color patch that no one will even spend more then 10 bucks for it, and deservedly so. |
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Posted By: t206King
thanks JP , lol they may add the test results "POSITIVE" or NEGATIVE" , |
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Posted By: Brett
I remember when the Upper Deck 500 HR bat cards came out. I saw one go for $10,000 + that was graded a PSA 9. Now i see them for under $1,000..... |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Not all have lost value. Some of them are very hot right now. Who knows what they'll be worth in 5 years (some more, some less) - but some of us enjoy collecting the really nice logos, so "worth" is not always measured in dollars. |
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