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Glen VI agree that if SCD and Beckett add updated “ACC” numbers to their catalogs, that the updates will stick. However, I think coming up with the numbers is more than just a trivial secretarial task. First, the community must determine which cards get designations. That can lead to big debates about what is really a “card”. There can also be problems about who made the card – should it really be an E card, or an R, W, etc.? Also, how far does this effort go? Only cards before a certain date? Does it include premiums? Foreign cards? Pins? Seems like it can get out of hand quick.
So how big an effort are we talking about? I can't think of too many cards that need numbers. There can't be too many B, E, and W cards that are uncataloged and can't be easily identified with a name. If the effort goes beyond that it might turn people off. Few people care about the ACC, and if all of a sudden there are new numbers to call "uncat" cards rather than saying Lections, Voskamps, Plow Boy, etc., it might have a negative effect on the collecting community. Beckett and/or the SCD might throw in 10 or so new numbers, but it might be a tough sell to get them to change 100+ issues with new designations that aren't needed and just add confusion.
That being said, there are issues where having an actual "ACC" number would be a benefit. If the issue doesn't have a name or the name doesn't help one recognize the card, then an "ACC" number should be applied. Here are some issues that should be considered, along with questions that might be worth thinking about:
E-Unc Oakland Oaks
1912 B-Unc Felts (are these really cards, or a trimmed down pennant?)
http://www.centuryoldcards.com/1910/1912Felt.html
1910 E-Unc Orange Borders (name is probably good enough here - who will call these E568s instead of Orange Borders?)
1910 E-Unc Candy
www.vintageball.com/files/Uncat_Evers2.jpg
1915 Unc B&W Cards (are these E or W cards???)
http://www.centuryoldcards.com/1910/1915B-W.html
1936 E-Unc Candy
1910 W-unc colorized portraits (cut from a page – really cards?)
http://www.oldcardboard.com/w/colorized-portraits/cp.asp?cardsetID=849
1913 W-Unc Notebook Cards (E95/96 like cards cut from a notebook cover - really cards that deserve an ACC #???)
http://www.centuryoldcards.com/1910/1913Notebook.html
1916 W-Unc Big Head (name probably good enough here)
http://www.oldcardboard.com/w/big-head/big-head.asp?cardsetID=850
1920/1 W-Unc IFS “Blue and Orange”
http://www.oldcardboard.com/w/ifs-blue-orange/ifs-blue-orange.asp?cardsetID=854
1921 W-Unc Self Developing Strip Cards
www.luckeycards.com/swunc1921hornsby.jpg
1923 Unc Sepia Shoulderless (E/W? Card?)
http://www.centuryoldcards.com/1920/1923Shoulderless.html
1925 W-Unc Playing Cards (a version of W560?)
http://www.centuryoldcards.com/1920/1925-29Playing.html
1921/9? W-Unc Hand Drawn Playing Cards
http://www.oldcardboard.com/w/red-bg-game-cards/red-bg-game-cards.asp?cardsetID=852
1931 W-Unc (or just a W502 sub-set - really need a new number?)
http://www.oldcardboard.com/w/w502/w502.asp?cardsetID=810
1935 W-Unc Manager Strip Cards (cut from a calendar - deserve a number???)
http://www.centuryoldcards.com/1930/1935Mgr.html
???? W-Unc (similar to W555)
http://www.oldjudge.com/auction/baseball/type/89/
1910? W/WG-Unc Game pieces (anyone know what these really are - can you assign a number to something if you don't know what it is?)
www.luckeycards.com/swuncredandbluegamepieces1910ish.jpg
1920s PC-Unc Manager Series
http://www.oldcardboard.com/pc/managers/managers.asp?cardsetID=943
1908 PC-Unc Pirates Stadium Issue
http://www.oldcardboard.com/pc/pirates/pirates.asp?cardsetID=940
B-Unc Pennants
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09-02-2006, 02:09 AM
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