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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: T E
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: john/z28jd
Since they didnt list the team name on the label the only error they seemed to make was to you on the phone.Daniel Stearns is shown in the old judge with 2 different teams,Kansas City like yours,and Des Moines. There is no extra value for his named being spelled wrong and thats because the set has so many spelling errors that one doesnt stand out over others,and usually when they corrected it,neither is easier/harder to find over the other. I wouldnt change the holder unless you like the look of sgc's better,theres no extra value in getting it switched or relabeled. |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: T E
Thanks, makes sense, but I do want PSA to correct their records before I list, otherwise someone checking on serial # comes up with Des Moines...I do prefer the look of SGC but not enough to care here... |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: john/z28jd
According to their site they dont differentiate between teams for him so anyone checking the population report gets all variations/poses for him listed as one. If it makes you feel better he is wearing a Des Moines uniform on your card |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: T E
Thanks, John. Actually, PSA lists a Stearns for Des Moines and a Stearns for Kansas City. THey do not list a Sterns either way, but slabbed it as Sterns. Maybe I should just send it back to them and let them figure it out. I paid to have the thing graded, at least they could get it right. |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
We should grade cards. |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: john/z28jd
Gotcha.I dont actually have an account i just have a copy of their list as of this January and on that list all it says is Daniel Sterns,doesnt have the corrected spelling or any team variations listed.If what you say is the case then they should change it for their records. |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: davidcycleback
For selling, I don't see any need to get it reslabbed by SCG or the 'error' fixed. If, in the auction description, you mention that the card says K.C. while he's pictured in a Des Moines uniform, that will answer any question a bidder might have before he has a question. |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Here's a version of a Stearns, Des Moines card that seems to have all the correct information on the card but PSA spelled the name wrong on the label. Basically - "what John said..." |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: T E
Great help here as always. I called PSA last week, was told to email links to image of card, which I did. It has been a week since, but of course today is a holiday, so I'll cut them slack. Still, I wish there was someone at PSA I could call or email directly with a problem like this. But when I call the service dept at PSA, I feel like I am bothering them. I guess they are so used to fielding calls about Johnny Damon Gold Foil Refractor with Slice of Bat and Swatch of Uniform and Hair Folicle DNA True 1/1 that they just glaze over... |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: T E
This is the answer I got back from PSA customer service rep, who forwarded it to me. Ok, his card will now show the card in the system as 1887 Old Judge Dan Stearns (Sterns-Kansas City). The pop will show that we have graded two cards. The catalog only lists him as Dan Stearns with Des Moines and Kansas City as variations. We have to assume that the Kansas City card has the miss spelled name. Let him know that they update the pop once a week on Mondays. So the change will not show up on the pop till then. If he puts in his cert # he will see the proper labeling. He can send the card in as a mechanical for the label to be corrected. Hope he is ok with this. My comments: I went out with Miss Spelled when I was a kid. She was a very hot date. (Rim shot!) But seriously, folks. They are assuming that the KC card has misspelled name. It would be nice if they didn't have to assume, if in fact they kept detailed records of rare cards (any card from 1887 qualifies, in my mind, as rare) whenever they are graded. They should do it for themselves and for the hobby that they serve. In sum, I have no idea if this card is a one-of-one or a one-of-two. And while I understand that spelling errors are common with this quirky issue, such information can influence price. |
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1887 N172 Old Judge Error? (Plus a PSA screwup)
Posted By: Joe_G.
Yep, misspellings are quite common in the Old Judge set. The "Catch, hands neck high" (pose #1 - your example) is catalogued as having both Stearns & Sterns variations, both with KC. Pose #2 (of 5) as either Stearns or Tearns, pose #3 as only Sterns and so on. For what it's worth, the Des Moine variations all have his name spelled correctly. |
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