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Old 12-13-2005, 04:56 AM
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Default 1951 Toleteros Gibson on Leland's

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

While I cannot disagree with the analysis of this piece as a card but not a baseball card, I will say that people SHOULD just accept the fact that Gibson does not have a rookie card. Just because I think they should, does not mean I expect that to happen.
That being said, I believe the 'perceived' value is poorly arrived at by the collectors that are willing to pay more than $100-200 bucks for this card. I have so many problems with its' place in the set. I really cannot see how Gibson card really 'belongs' in the set. That is, it is part of the issue, but really should not be. I do not believe that a rookie card should ever be considered a rookie card if it is issued 'posthumous' or if it is produced along with Players/Teams/etc. that the player has no association with. In this isntance, you have both of those scenarios playing out. A double whammy if you will.
The 'postcard' of Gibson has a much more 'authentic' place in the hobby (double entendre anyone?). It dates to and was produced during the mans career AND life. I would easily choose it over the Toleteros card. For that matter, if one is to say that one of these two items should be worth over 20k, the Postcard would be my pick.
This is a very controversial topic and I am sure people are going to come back with all sorts of various 'retorts' and explanations to my point. I don't care to argue and will not get into a 'shouting match' over this, but I really think that the collectors who spend serious coin should spend some time and really think about why the card is as valuable in their own eyes as this item is. Alright, Let it FLY! Leon, Shammus, everyone else ... DUCK!!!

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