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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)
This may overlap with what Leon mentioned in another thread but what makes this card a Koestler's Bread Card ? |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: barrysloate
According to the seller, who I spoke with regarding this set, he maintains that the Koestler's Bread cards were issued on a better quality paper stock than the W cards were. However, once the card is slabbed, you can no longer determine this. It's a tricky issue but he claims he has researched it. |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Wesley
So the seller is saying that Koester Bread, a local NY bakery designed and released their own cards? And the cards were issued for Yankees only and no other? And these Yankee cards happen to precede the American Caramel Company E121s which used identical photos later? |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: barrysloate
The seller is a regular poster but I will leave it up to him to chime in. It was PSA who graded it however, so hopefully they got it right. |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Here is the thread on which the seller made his points: |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Kevin Cummings
I had a bunch of these at one time (all I have left is the Jesse Burkett) and don't recall there being a noticable difference in the quality of the stock on which the cards were printed. I'll compare when I get home later. |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Hal Lewis
Show us your Burkett!! |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Chris Bland
Not Kevin's, but I couldnt pass up an opportunity to show off my favorite card! |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: fkw
There are New York Giants players as well as Yankees (52 in all). There are other differnces besides the stock, the captions on front are slightly different on some cards (ie. "Outf." instead of "O.F."). |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Hal Lewis
What does Jesse have in his hand? |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Chris Bland
I think Jesse is holding a ball bag or a suitcase - either way he is well past his playing weight, which adds to the charm of the card IMO. |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Larry
Hello to all.. |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Anonymous
What are your thoughts: |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
While I do not doubt that there was a Koesters set, I have some problems with your analysis of the cards. If there is an identifiable difference in caption, etc. relating to the Koesters as has been stated on some of the cards that would be a good sign, but there is not on every card- thus essentially making it virtually impossible to distinguish between W575-1 and Koesters. |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Rhett Yeakley
Just scanned some images about what I was talking about... |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Larry
W575-1 has a lighter strike in the actual picture, very hard to tell in any scan...The only W575-1 I have handled which were many have this grayish appearence...ACC actually puts W575-2 in same grouping which everyone should agree is nothing like the above mentioned sets..W501's are very similar to the grey W575-1 except for date and they are sometimes oversized.. |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)
I would also point out that when I bought the two in the scan above from Lew Lipset back when he had a mail order catalogue (I'll guess about 10 or 11 years ago) it was as "UNC Koestler Bread" cards that had been produced/distributed in honor of the first Yankees-Giants World Series showdown. |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Larry
Brian...Great tidbit of info, this is what a forum should be, educational and interesting......... |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: fkw
I looked at the Matronet auction a couple days ago, the larger picture doesnt work now, all they have is a thumbnail picture. Does anyone have a scan of what they think is a Koester's Bread Frisch card. I have a W575-1 and E121 Id like to compare with it. Thanks |
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Koestler's Bread Question
Posted By: Scott
I received some cards in the late 80s from an 80 year old man. He gave them to me in a envelope and told me he remembered them coming from either candy or bread.Inside were about 30 or so cards and they all were NY Americans and NY Nationals. |
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