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Old 01-02-2006, 08:54 AM
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Default how to classify W575 vs E121 w/ad backs

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This is a very interesting topic because there seems to be constantly new finds and some realizations regarding this issue that makes ACC seem slightly obsolete...

E121-issued by American Caramel in series of 80 & 120 came standard 2 x 3.25"....Probably was outsourced by same printing company as other sets but paper stock was very white and slightly heavier than the "W" counterparts..The various backs such as Herpolsheimer, Holsum etc...all should be categorized as "D" for food products and "H" for clothing products if you use ACC formula. This printer used a totally different paper stock than any "W" issue

W501-issued in strips but had jagged cut fromm examples I have or have seen offered...had date actually in upper left corner, generally 4-22, must have been different company that issued cards but licensed pictures from same factory and used thinner and grayer paper stock...are very slightly larger than E121's and W575-1, probably all hand cut however it is intersting to note that the group recently offered by Mastronet which we acquired(98 cards) ALL are jagged cut meaning they could have been actually issued this way and NOT in strips


W575-1-more similar to E121 but are grayer and have similar paper stock to W501 but are very slightly smaller than same W501 issue and have no date...They also have different players in the sets , a few with different position abbreviations than E121...There also seems to be evidence than these two "W"" issues were issued at similar dates as a few of the players are in both sets while a couple are not in either 80 or 120 series E121...jagged cut or straight cut, probably all hand cut

1921 Koester's Bread Subset- VERY similar paper stock to E121, Herpolsheimer etc..different players in this set that were NOT issued in E121 such as Tom Rogers and abbreviations different such as Bob Meusel outf. instead of of..this issue was definately issued later in 1921 to commemorate the NY WS..This issue is very white in color compared to any "W" set, paper stock is actually a touch thinner than E121 and heavier than W501 or W575-1..straight cut examples all I have seen

W575-2- Differs totally from above sets, this is the set that has autograph across shoulder and has different pictures and nicer stock...

Hope This Helps...Larry

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