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06-30-2005, 03:30 PM
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Greatest Pitchers Ever ?
Posted By: T206Collector
Has to be the most overrated pitcher of all time, if not player of all time. Strikeouts and no-hitters are fascist. Great pitchers win despite adversity, and Ryan nearly ended up being the only pitcher to win over 300 games, but lose more times than he won. He also never won a Cy Young Award. Ever. Not even one. Plus he walked a billion people, which is why his no-hitters were never perfect games. Just about every pitcher listed on this link so far is tons better than Ryan. For me it starts with Grove, Matty and Johnson. The other two in the top five are debatable, but I'd probably wind up with Koufax and Gibson. Maybe Paige. But tell Ryan to get in the back of the line and take his 4,000+ walks with him. 
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