Most underated HOFers in the hobby?

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Posted By: john/z28jd

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this ones all about him

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notice this is an extra edition of SI,they only do that for special occasions

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everybody gets tv guide Gilbert

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not a publication but they dont give stamps to just anyone

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not a book but they dont put people on wheaties boxes cause they smell nice

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this one is a good read Gilbert

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well damn,thats a 120 page book all about it

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time magazine huh,not big on baseball usually


Those are just the ones i found on ebay that are going right now with him on the cover.I didnt include any of the commerative plates,hartland statues,pins,baseballs,videos,trading cards,posters or photos that specifically commerarate his home run feat,and there were a couple other magazines in found at the end but were in big lots and included ones i had already posted.

Also if you go in a 5 year stretch of home runs including the year after McGwires amazing 4 year stretch and the year after Sosa's best 4 year stretch,youll find out Sosa hit 5 more home runs over that time.Remember what Bill James said,using the lowest common denominator you could put Amos Otis in the hall of fame and have a good argument for it.

How many guys in baseball history have had over 350 doubles,1000 runs scored and rbis,2000 hits,60 triples,190 homers,a slugging percent of at least .425 and 340 stolen bases.The answer is less than 10 and Amos Otis is one of them.You could go thru a who's who of baseball history and eliminate them Ruth,Cobb,Aaron,Mays,Mantle,Robinson,Lajoie,Collin s,any 19th century player,Foxx,Dimaggio,Gehrig etc etc but theres good old Amos Otis in a group with Bonds,Barry Larkin,Roberto Alomar and Joe Morgan.If you want to make the group even smaller to include just Amos,all you have to say is 'and led the league in doubles and/or stolen bases at least once'

Good old Amos Otis is the only guy ever in baseball history to put up those numbers,plus he won 3 gold gloves.Does that make him the best player of all time then or one of the best.No...Does it make him underrated because no one here knew that since James book came out 7 years ago before 3 of those guys made his first list which included alot less qualifiers.

Every knew Mark McGwire hit home runs at a record pace,it was on espn and the newspapers everyday,you couldnt miss it.It was rehashed when Bonds was closing in on it,ive read it places including a Bill James book,i couldve figured it out on my own but because you dont hear about it everyday doesnt mean its not in print,im sure his hall of fame plaque will mention it.

Mac's streak is impressive but theres plenty of impressive stuff you hear alot less and it doesnt get the guy into the hall of fame based solely on it.Mark Grace led the majors in hits and doubles in the 90's. Hes not going to the HOF,and thats a domination over a 10 year period with natural boundries set,everyone knows what a decade is