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Great News! (GAI pack grading)
Posted By: Richard Dwyer
To anyone who has tobacco packs encapsulated by GAI, they are offering to reencapsulate them at $5 each. If you're not happy with the prior one/s, send it back to Steve Rocci @ GAI and he will reencapsulate them for you. I suggest that you send with it all the info you want to appear at the top. They will verify and then reencapsulate. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
They should be doing this for free. Why should the collector have to pay for their mistakes and incompentence? |
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer
That's at their cost. I doubt PSA and anyone else would do it for free either. I'm having mine redone, because I want all the facts on the label this time. |
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Posted By: leon
They made mistakes and now want to charge to fix them? Hmmmm......don't know about that......(well, actually I do)...regards all |
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Posted By: Judge Dred
Perhaps we're not understanding the logic here - they're doing it for free when they charge you $5!!! Remember, the trick here is that it costs them $5 to do this so when you give them the $5 they actually do it for free!!! |
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Posted By: qualitycards
PSA does not charge to have a card reholdered if the information is incorrect, like card #, player name or if the card issue is wrong. If you wanted other additional info placed on the flip that might be another story...jay |
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer
I'm not defending GAI and their mistakes. Yes, they messed up. But they have improved since then. Perhaps you should call or write yourselves to voice your opinions. |
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Posted By: Jay Miller
No offense, but who cares if GAI authenticates boxes? It sounds like, from what is stated here, that GAI got into the field with plenty to learn, and now they want people to pay for their education. I thought graders are supposed to be the experts. Why does everything have to have plastic around it? Hey, I got my goldfish slabbed today---got an 8.5. Used to really like that little fella. |
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Posted By: Judge Dred
Ditto the above sentiment. |
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Posted By: leon
You didn't get the updated version of the goldfish slab. It has water in it so the little guy can swim around. AND nothing personal here but the statement about giving GAI help in their business AFTER they rolled out the program is idiotic. They should have known about them BEFORE they started slabbing them. BTW, when I was at the National I did speak to some GAI guy in an elevator and asked him about the pack/slab snafu. He said everyone makes mistakes (non-chalantly) . I think it's great they do the service but they should have known it better before starting it. And there is no way in HELL that someone else should pay a dime to have them fix their mistake. Paying $5 to cover the cost of fixing their mistake is stupid, imo. ...there's my 1/2 cent.......later |
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Posted By: Jay Miller
Hey Leon--I just looked at my goldfish slab. Son of a Gun if it didn't say GUPPY 8.5. |
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Posted By: hankron
My opinion is that, when in doubt, GAI should say the pack is unopened and not give a date or anything (Which is what they should have done in the first place and probably will do now), then offer for sale a copy of Jon's guide from their site. |
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer
Your only other option was to pay full price again to have them redone. If I was GAI and read your posts, I would take the offer back. |
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Posted By: Jay Miller
Wrong! Your other option is to rely a little more on yourself and less on others and break the packs out and not have them slabbed. |
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Posted By: hankron
How about this. Instead of having their packs entombed at all, collectors buy Jon's guide. Never quite understood the aesthetic appeal of having a tobacco pack encapculated in a plastic bologna pack, but perhaps that's just me. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
Are they putting a warning label on the outside of the slabs when they are packaging up these tobacco packs?? |
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Posted By: bcornell
http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=153652&messageid=1085166638 |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Richard, you are coming across as a shill for GAI. As pointed out, they had no business slabbing packs since they obviously had no clue what they were doing. And collectors taht believed GAI know what they were doing SHOULD NOT have pay anything to get their packs correctly graded. It's bad enough they have to pay to ship them back to them. Obviously, GAI is a greedy company that cares little about comustomers and more about the all mighty $$$. Why else would they want to charge someone to correct their mistake? |
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer
I spoke to GAI and told them your complaints prior to my initial post here. It was because of my speaking up, did they make the offer. I'm just as upset about wasting my money as the ones who spent money to get theirs encapsulated. All I get for my effort is a bunch of people telling me off. Last time I will speak up for this forum. |
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Posted By: hankron
Let's compromise and yell at Hal. |
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Posted By: MW
I don't know David. At this point I'm kind of feeling as if it's your fault. |
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Posted By: Kenny Cole
Richard, |
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Posted By: Judge Dred
Richard, |
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer
At least my boxes are protected by the elements. Even though GAI did a crappy job describing my boxes, they are safe from fingerprints, etc. I'm still gonna have them reencapsulate them at $5 each, only to show my friends that they are what they say they are. |
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Posted By: Josh K.
Am I missing something, I see is a response to Gary B from Kenny, but no original post by Gary B. |
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Posted By: hankron
Suffice to say that baseball card tobacco packs is one of the most esoteric areas in the baseball hobby. Like the prettiest girl in the neighborhood, the genre has broken the hearts of most suitors. |
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Posted By: MW
Josh, |
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Posted By: hankron
For the record, I'm not rich but I'm definitely spoiled. |
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Posted By: Gary B.
Any idea why my post was removed? I thought it was completely on topic. I don't post that often, and I put a lot of time and thought into it. What gives??? |
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Posted By: hankron
Frankly, Gary, I don't know why it was removed either. It wasn't any more off topic than half my posts. |
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Posted By: MW
But David, you've been with us forever and you hold a special place in all our hearts. For that reason alone, you've been extended creative carte blanche. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Richard, I commend you on what you did, but there was no need to be an apoligist for GAI's screw up. That was all their fault and they did not take full responsibilty like they should have. |
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Posted By: Lee Behrens
Giving out bowling shoes is a lucrative business, I am thinking about franchising. Any of you really rich guys want to invest some vintage cards? |
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Posted By: Gary B.
"The missing post in question (from Gary) said something to the effect that many of the collectors on this forum were either rich or spoiled or both. It was pretty random." |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Gary, just because you had one post deleted does not mean that there is, to paraphrase you, extreme moderating/censorship going on. I didn't see the post, but Bill talks to me often enough about potentially deleting posts to know that he does not take deleting a post lightly, and rarely deletes one. |
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Posted By: Gary B.
I didn't think I was namecalling, I was just trying to give people another point of view to look at this issue as opposed to quibbling over the $5 thing, but most people won't get to read that now for themselves. This wasn't my first post being deleted, btw. I had a thread that had a good 40+ responses where the entire thread got deleted too. Maybe it's not taken lightly when a post gets deleted, but then we must have very different definitions of what lightly means or what constitutes flaming, as that was not my intention at all. Instead of the healthy conversation and possible debate that could have ensued over my post, instead there is healthy conversation and debate over why my post was deleted. Sad. |
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Posted By: leon
edited to not hurt anyone's feelings |
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Posted By: Chris
edited cuz leon rules. |
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Posted By: hankron
99 percent of collectors have limited collecting budgets and do just fine. An eye for quality is 100x more important that a huge bank account. I've long felt it's a bogus assumption that good stuff has to cost money and cheap stuff is bad. I don't have near the budget of some on this board, but I've owned a few expensive items in my day. With these types of items you sometimes think you'd died and gone to heaven and you sometimes think "You know, I liked that $20 item just as much if not better." |
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Posted By: scott hassel
As a long time pack collector ( sold you guys some of your better packs ) its a shame that a novice company with very little expertise would even think of grading these packs. There's been enough bad eggs in the card game , now it moves to vintage pack collectors. KNOW WHAT YOU BUY and from who. Heck I purchased an N162 on line that was GAI certified as a 6 with 20% of the back missing. Good hunting. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
I may be one of the "big budget" guys these days ... thanks to some good fortune in life ... |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
PS - My FAVORITE cards are still the ones that I collected as a kid and have kept forever: |
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Posted By: Richard Dwyer
My first box was my 1911 Old Mill. Bought it for $5 about 10 years ago. Right place, right time. Dumb seller. |
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Posted By: Jason
Has GAI got the BBkid to grade those 1950s Santy claus bogus HOliday racks with VGEX cards in them? ...........the ones he used to peddle on ebay? Just curious. |
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Posted By: Josh K.
Ive seen those Santa holiday packs on ebay recently - never bought any, but why are they bogus? Ive never heard anything about them. |
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Posted By: hankron
I'm no wax pack expert, but I beleive the 'Holiday Packs' were packaged some time after and don't have factory fresh (high grade) cards. As with any collectable, the bogocitiness (technical term) depends on how the packs are represented. |
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Posted By: scgaynor
I personally once opened a "holiday rack pack" and found a card in the center with ballpoint pen writing on the back. |
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