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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Numismatics is a much older hobby than baseball card collecting. Documentation of the best condition coins and identification of their location is typically no mystery. Additionally, the coin grading standards are accepted and established. |
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Posted By: Tom Botticelli
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
The way I see it is that you are correct in theory, but not in your conclusion. |
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Well, Im sure that I could discuss this subject for quite a while, however, since it relys on projections, conjecture and other attempts to read between the lines, why speculate about it, one may ask. Because it may provide additional insight, or perhaps just be fun for some, perhaps. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
I see your point now Gil, as I was unaware of the rigors of coin grading, etc. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
If you put a 9 and 10 next to each other, can any of us honestly figure out why one card got a 9 and the other a 10? The differences between the 2 is almost negligable. But then again, I never have to worry about since I will never be able to afford cards in thoswe grades, lol. |
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Posted By: hankron
Murphy's law of collecting rare items: If you buy the only example known to exist, the next five will show up on eBay in about a month. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
and they will be sold by "tonis-cards" |
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Posted By: hankron
They will be real but sell for 1/3 what you paid |
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Posted By: hankron
I once bought for cheap a super desirable item from a longtime NYC dealer. He knew what it was, but was unaware of its significance. Stupidly assuming it was the only one he had, I told him all about it after I bought it. Turned out he had 9 different ones and he proceeded to raise on them the price several times over. I bought them all, but, in essence, raised the price on myself. |
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Posted By: T206Collector
If demand is constant and supply increases, prices will fall. That is basic economics. The only way a so-called second one-of-one would sell for as much as the first one-of-one would be because of an increase in demand. |
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Posted By: Hal Lewis
And when people see something sell for $110,000... |
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Posted By: honus3415
Some good points..... |
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Posted By: hankron
A common false premise for armchair economicry is that the (hobby) market is entirely efficient. |
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Posted By: Paul
I have to agree that there's no room for fractional grades between a 9 and a 10 until someone can actually perceive a difference between most 9s and most 10s. On the other hand, there's a lot of room for more grades at the bottom of the scale. Some 2s are actually quite respectable, while others look like they have been through a garbage disposal. This is partly due to "technical" grading standards (microscopic back damage may be an automatic 2 or 1), but it's also due to the wide range of cards that legitimately fall into the lower grades. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I've always thought that a 4 or 5 section criteria for grading with each section with 20 or 25 points so there is a max total score of 100. You could break it down to centering, gloss, corners, erdges, register, etc. This would give you a true 100 point scale and allow for nuances. |
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines
I offer one more opinion. If the difference in price between a card graded 9 and ten is several hundred dollars, or even somewhat more, there is no motivation to subdivide the scale between these values. As the spread between the value of these two grades increases, so does the rational in support of fractional grading. |
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Posted By: Mike Mac
With old cards, especially, the board has old posts that point out that true high grade cards are difficult to find: production and wear since production. Anything old and produced perfectly is difficult. Well, sometimes, it seems to me, anything produced well by Topps prior to (not including) 1987 is difficult relative to their total production, but this is a vintage board. If the card was produced well and entered a collection, then it was subject to 60-160 years of potential wear. Although I do not know this for a fact, I would think that more copies of superstars exist but they are likely to be subject to greater amounts of wear. Anything is a 1 of 1? Unlikely, but maybe truely scarce. |
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