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Old 12-10-2003, 01:51 PM
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

we're all arguing a lot of differing arguments based on things that really don't match up.

Anyone who follows the card market would be hard pressed to ignore the fact that a BGS9.5 in a post-1980 card will bring significantly more than a PSA10 card of the same type.

However, for the arguments that most of this board's members are making with Mike, there really isn't any way to compare and Jay Miller said it best--BGS/BVG just isn't really even a player in the pre-war market to make comparisons. How many Old Judges have you seen in a BVG/BGS holder?

90% of OJ's are in SGC or PSA holders with the remainder hanging out in GAI holders probably. BGS/BVG hasn't graded the massive quantities of T206's, 33 Goudey's, Cracker Jacks (legitimate ones), or any other of the mainstream pre-war sets to even really make a legitimate distinction between the grading companies.

To compare BGS or SGC on new cards isn't a good comparison either because SGC just isn't a huge player in the 1987 Fleer Bonds card. Just the way it is. Each of the grading companies have their own 'niche' for now and there is some cross-over for each of them.

I have to wonder just how much conflict of interest there is in the whole PSA and BGS 'families' of intertwined companies to, in some cases, even feel comfortable with them. At least with SGC and GAI there is no OVERT relationships to auction houses (yet), retaillers and other methods of moving product. While I'm not accusing anyone of anything (someone else can do that), it certainly is disconcerting a little (to me).

As for millionaires wanting 9's and 10's, I think anyone who bought those Tiger Woods cards when the first 10's came out or the A-Rod SP foils or the Jordan Rookies in 10's and paid 20K+ might re-think their 'investments' about now.

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