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wHY ELSE ARE THEY GRADED SO POORLY?? |
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Posted By: Dr.Koos
...that the first and third examples are trimmed, my Pale-face son! |
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...I've never seen such a borderless card top and bottom. If this card measures within 1/8th of an inch of catalog specs, I'd be greatly surprised. Even the 39PB Dimaggio looks like it's whacked. Am I imagining things here?? Is there some type of vertical compression taking place on these postage stamp sized scans that I've never witnessed before? I thought the Coupon cards themselves were slightly smaller than T206s LEFT to RIGHT (correct me if I'm wrong) but the one imaged in this seller's auctions looks incredibly small top to bottom. What sayeth thou, Augustus? |
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Posted By: jay behrens
The 206 and 213 look short as hell, but I can't see anything wrong with the caramell card other than stains. |
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Posted By: Dr.Koos
..Tinker, ALSO PSA graded!!! Auction #1855756668. Take a peek at THAT dwarf. There's barely a fringe of top border and the edge almost intrudes on the player name line!!!! Did PSA leave the word "mini" designation off the label by accident? |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Tinker is the 206. no way that card is not trimmed. Also, the case on the t213 Speaker looks like it may have been cracked open. Look at the left edge near the middle. |
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Posted By: petecld
I agree, the Tinker and Speaker are trimmed. |
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Posted By: Bill Cornell
I agree: a card with a pinhole is FR at best, and more usually PR. The only more distracting flaw, I think, is writing on the front or back. I can only imagine the grades T3's would receive if either PSA or SGC got around to grading that issue, given how they were often hung on walls. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
has the pinhole seller mentions. What's the big mystery? Ridiculous to put a grade on a trimmed card... |
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Posted By: petecld
Julie, I think you might be missing the point of the posts. I too have dealt with (toscata) and have only good things to say as well. We aren't saying ANYTHING about the seller. No one is saying he isn't disclosing condition facts, etc.. No one is saying there is a mystery, it's about PSA grading. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
I noticed this too, that from front it does appear to have a pinhole, but if you look at the back, I can't see any evidence of that same hole on the backside. Am I missing something? |
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Posted By: leon
I wonder if they didn't give some leniency to the Speaker T213 thinking it was like one of the other 2 series which are notoriously short bordered? It looks short from the pic.... As for the Evers E93 there is not doubt they slammed it for the pinhole in conjuction with other gd+ characteristics....it's a shame too because that card does not deserve a 1 (visually speaking)..The T206 Tinker looks real short from the picture.....looks like PSA might have blown that one too....regards all |
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Posted By: jay berhens
Finally found the pinhole on the back. Blends in pretty well with the top line on lettering. |
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Posted By: Bruce Moreland
"Also, the case on the t213 Speaker looks like it may have been cracked open. Look at the left edge near the middle." |
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Posted By: Bruce Moreland
"I agree: a card with a pinhole is FR at best, and more usually PR. The only more distracting flaw, I think, is writing on the front or back. I can only imagine the grades T3's would receive if either PSA or SGC got around to grading that issue, given how they were often hung on walls." |
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Posted By: Bruce Moreland
"Ridiculous to put a grade on a trimmed card..." |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
I said "Ridulous to put a grade on a trimmed card." The pinhole speaks for itself:maximum poor, or is it fair? |
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Posted By: Toscata
The Evers card measures larger than full size, but has the small pinhole and has color fading on the front, no creases.. |
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