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Old 10-24-2025, 08:42 AM
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Want to compare Ohtani's WAR7 to Ruth's?
I looked it up. As a hitter, 35.4 for Ohtani to 84.7 for Ruth. So let's talk about peaks, shall we? For reference, Aaron Judge is 56.9.
That is only for hitting. His overall WAR7 is 51.9. His total WAR in the Covid year was -.4 (from his pitching). He has played 8 seasons with 51.5 total WAR. His peak is not Ruth or even Judge, but for example Frank Robinson was 52.9 and Ohtani will pass him, and a bunch of other Hofers next year. His WAR in 2019 was 2.4. He could easily catch or pass Judge with another 7.5+ season. He has averaged 9 WAR the last 5 years and his worst season was 7.7.
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That is only for hitting. His overall WAR7 is 51.9. His total WAR in the Covid year was -.4 (from his pitching). He has played 8 seasons with 51.5 total WAR. His peak is not Ruth or even Judge, but for example Frank Robinson was 52.9 and Ohtani will pass him, and a bunch of other Hofers next year. His WAR in 2019 was 2.4. He could easily catch or pass Judge with another 7.5+ season. He has averaged 9 WAR the last 5 years and his worst season was 7.7.
Yes, he absolutely is a great player, and the two way thing is amazing as I have said. I just don't buy the comparison to Ruth.
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Ohtani is 100% "a modern day babe ruth" for his pitching/hitting prowess. The ball just sounds different coming off his bat...like ruth. Ohtani has a mania attached to him...worldwide...kinda like ruth had later in his career. Ohtani...like ruth has controversy attached with the gambling thing. All the greats are flawed.

Ruth's legacy is cemented. If ohtani can complete a whole career approaching 150-200 wins and over 4-500 hr's...he will be in his own league.

Comparisons from diff eras are fun...but are imprecise.
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Ohtani is 100% "a modern day babe ruth" for his pitching/hitting prowess. The ball just sounds different coming off his bat...like ruth. Ohtani has a mania attached to him...worldwide...kinda like ruth had later in his career. Ohtani...like ruth has controversy attached with the gambling thing. All the greats are flawed.

Ruth's legacy is cemented. If ohtani can complete a whole career approaching 150-200 wins and over 4-500 hr's...he will be in his own league.

Comparisons from diff eras are fun...but are imprecise.
He has 39 wins thru his age 30 season. That's a big IF. Home runs, much more realistic.
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Every sport is always looking for the next king, went through the same thing when LeBron was at a similar stage in his career and also with Mahomes .
A lot of it is trying to predict the future.
Not enough to unseat Ruth ... yet
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Not enough to unseat Ruth ... yet
Team Ohtani here, but that I won't argue at all. If Ohtani ends up in a cascading injury spiral or otherwise doesn't continue to show what he's currently showing for a few more years then he was simply a guy who shined much brighter than his peers for a while.

I don't blame those that want Ohtani to prove more. I just believe he'll deliver that "more."
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