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RayW · #1 10-14-2025, 09:35 AM

Both Phillies and Brewers intentionally walked Ohtani to load the bases, only to unintentionally walk Betts to push in a run.🤢

jp1216 · #2 10-14-2025, 10:59 AM

That Brewers 8-6-2 DP was incredible. Certainly something you don't see every day. No excuse for the runner on 3rd not scoring on that but the other runners were so confused. I know one ump was signaling no catch and the 3rd base coach saw it that way too.
Assuming the runner on 3rd had scored - they still likely would've turned two with the runners on 1st and 2nd not advancing.

jayshum · #3 10-14-2025, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jp1216

That Brewers 8-6-2 DP was incredible. Certainly something you don't see every day. No excuse for the runner on 3rd not scoring on that but the other runners were so confused. I know one ump was signaling no catch and the 3rd base coach saw it that way too.
Assuming the runner on 3rd had scored - they still likely would've turned two with the runners on 1st and 2nd not advancing.

So if there were force outs recorded at third and second, the run still wouldn't have counted.

jp1216 · #4 10-14-2025, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

So if there were force outs recorded at third and second, the run still wouldn't have counted.

Exactly!

rlevy · #5 10-15-2025, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

So if there were force outs recorded at third and second, the run still wouldn't have counted.

The runner from first (Edman) had actually touched second base before retreating back to first, therefore while he could be put out because 2 runners couldn't both occupy first base, the force was no longer in play for him. There is no rule against him going back to first (except it was already occupied by the batter (Muncy). So only Smith (the runner from second) could be forced out, since he never touched third base. It then becomes a timing play regarding the runner tagging and scoring from third, and if he crossed the plate before Edman was tagged out, the run would have counted.

Weird play.

Rick

jayshum · #6 10-15-2025, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rlevy

The runner from first (Edman) had actually touched second base before retreating back to first, therefore while he could be put out because 2 runners couldn't both occupy first base, the force was no longer in play for him. There is no rule against him going back to first (except it was already occupied by the batter (Muncy). So only Smith (the runner from second) could be forced out, since he never touched third base. It then becomes a timing play regarding the runner tagging and scoring from third, and if he crossed the plate before Edman was tagged out, the run would have counted.

Weird play.

Rick

Interesting. I didn't realize Edman had touched second base then went back to first. In that case, isn't he entitled to first base so it's actually Muncy, the batter, who would have to have been tug out? Either way, the run would have scored before either was tug out on first.

bk400 · #7 10-16-2025, 08:01 PM

I love seeing Roki Sasaki come back and do well. What a great story.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/...unami-tragedy/

BobbyStrawberry · #8 10-16-2025, 08:05 PM

What a disappointment this NLCS has been. I picked the Dodgers to win, but I thought it would at least be competitive.

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