A New All Time Record for a Sports Card

BobbyStrawberry · #1 08-24-2025, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296

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By decree, all card shops within the city limits to be boarded up and closed when Mamdami wins. That�ll show em��
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Every wealthy old white guy's bogeyman du jour, a guy who wants to tax the rich a tiny bit more. Oh, the horror!

Casey2296 · #2 08-24-2025, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Every wealthy old white guy's bogeyman du jour, a guy who wants to tax the rich a tiny bit more. Oh, the horror!

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Everybody on this sub qualifies as �rich� to somebody else. I live in the highest tax state that has had 1 party rule for 40 years, their demand for revenue and mismanagement of funds is legendary.
You want more money? Get rid of the carried interest loophole for starters.

BobbyStrawberry · #3 08-24-2025, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296

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Everybody on this sub qualifies as �rich� to somebody else. I live in the highest tax state that has had 1 party rule for 40 years, their demand for revenue and mismanagement of funds is legendary.
You want more money? Get rid of the carried interest loophole for starters.

I think we live in the same state and I can't disagree with any of that...red states are just as bad at managing funds though. ZM represents a break from the status quo and that's what makes him so popular. What I don't get is why such a break is to be celebrated when it's on right but feared when it's on the left. People of all persuasions are dying for something different

Mark17 · #4 08-24-2025, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I think we live in the same state and I can't disagree with any of that...red states are just as bad at managing funds though. ZM represents a break from the status quo and that's what makes him so popular. What I don't get is why such a break is to be celebrated when it's on right but feared when it's on the left. People of all persuasions are dying for something different

If a state, or city like Chicago, has been run by the same party/ideology for decades and decades, then doubling down - going even harder in that same direction - is not going to produce a different result. It will just be more of the same, but twice as much.

BobbyStrawberry · #5 08-24-2025, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17

If a state, or city like Chicago, has been run by the same party/ideology for decades and decades, then doubling down - going even harder in that same direction - is not going to produce a different result. It will just be more of the same, but twice as much.

The thing is that he's a party outsider. Some of his ideas are not at all what the party in power want. That party's establishment is trying everything they can to undermine his success but so far it's not working. That's one difference between the two major parties - the other one sees a party outsider who is popular and embraces them. So if your point is that the party you were referring to sucks, I can't disagree with that either

puckpaul · #6 08-25-2025, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Every wealthy old white guy's bogeyman du jour, a guy who wants to tax the rich a tiny bit more. Oh, the horror!

Must be nice to continue and leave no doubt about your ignorance

BobbyStrawberry · #7 08-25-2025, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by puckpaul

Must be nice to continue and leave no doubt about your ignorance

Got anything substantive to say?

Republicaninmass · #8 08-25-2025, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Got anything substantive to say?

Believe he has summed it up above.

brianclat11 · #9 08-25-2025, 06:01 PM

So, three guys who have a boatload of money want to speculate with a bit of it on sports cards. They will not be impacted at all in their day to day lives if the card drops in value. However, my guess is that it will go for much more years from now. It is the GOAT of the sport along with one of the top players of all time who has passed away. It is a bit of contrived scarcity, but who cares. It brings more visibility to the hobby and is fun. If the .1% want to get in at the top of the hobby, I'm all for it. Believe me, this will have no bearing on the level of cards I purchase.

Rhotchkiss · #10 08-25-2025, 06:49 PM

Each to their own, but I prefer these for literally a mere fraction of the price

Wanaselja · #11 08-25-2025, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brianclat11

So, three guys who have a boatload of money want to speculate with a bit of it on sports cards. They will not be impacted at all in their day to day lives if the card drops in value. However, my guess is that it will go for much more years from now. It is the GOAT of the sport along with one of the top players of all time who has passed away. It is a bit of contrived scarcity, but who cares. It brings more visibility to the hobby and is fun. If the .1% want to get in at the top of the hobby, I'm all for it. Believe me, this will have no bearing on the level of cards I purchase.

That sums it up pretty well.

bnorth · #12 08-27-2025, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by brianclat11

So, three guys who have a boatload of money want to speculate with a bit of it on sports cards. They will not be impacted at all in their day to day lives if the card drops in value. However, my guess is that it will go for much more years from now. It is the GOAT of the sport along with one of the top players of all time who has passed away. It is a bit of contrived scarcity, but who cares. It brings more visibility to the hobby and is fun. If the .1% want to get in at the top of the hobby, I'm all for it. Believe me, this will have no bearing on the level of cards I purchase.

I think if resold it would go for pennies on the dollar at best. There is nothing stopping any of the card companies from making pretty much the exact same 1/1 card over and over. For me there is a WAY better card in the BST section now for $780 delivered.

rats60 · #13 08-27-2025, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth

I think if resold it would go for pennies on the dollar at best. There is nothing stopping any of the card companies from making pretty much the exact same 1/1 card over and over. For me there is a WAY better card in the BST section now for $780 delivered.

Except they can't make this card again. It contains the logo from a NBA 50th Anniversary Jersey and was signed by Kobe Bryant, who is dead. This is a true 1/1, that is why it went for so much.

Also, unless Upper Deck gets a NBA license again, the few Michael Jordan logoman cards that exist are all that are going to be made. This is driving the market up on those.

puckpaul · #14 08-25-2025, 07:03 PM

Yeah, Mamdani is an obvious anti-Semite and has racist upbringing and Muslim brotherhood connections. He wants to defund the police and eliminate misdemeanors. Breath of fresh air? More like the stench of a Trojan Horse. There are so many reasons the should be outright rejected. Raising taxes is the last one.

BobbyStrawberry · #15 08-25-2025, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by puckpaul

Yeah, Mamdani is an obvious anti-Semite and has racist upbringing and Muslim brotherhood connections. He wants to defund the police and eliminate misdemeanors. Breath of fresh air? More like the stench of a Trojan Horse. There are so many reasons the should be outright rejected. Raising taxes is the last one.

Most of this is easily refutable but I don't think this is the place for it. Happy collecting!

sreader3 · #16 08-25-2025, 07:36 PM

This thread has strayed pretty far from the merits of the purchase.

1) It is an unattractive card;
2) The signatures are hard to decipher (I can barely tell if they run top to bottom or bottom to top);
3) The card is not from a popular set;
4) Nobody has a nostalgic connection to this card (I�m not talking about the ATHLETES�of course people love Kobe and MJ).

So I don�t get the record price tag. But I am glad to see new people and new money migrate into the hobby. That is healthy. Maybe Mr. Wonderful will discover T206.

darwinbulldog · #17 08-26-2025, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sreader3

2) The signatures are hard to decipher (I can barely tell if they run top to bottom or bottom to top);

Now that you mention it, I can't really tell. I'm almost certain the Jordan goes top to bottom, but I'm like 60-40 leaning toward Kobe goes from bottom to top.

OhioLawyerF5 · #18 08-27-2025, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sreader3

This thread has strayed pretty far from the merits of the purchase.

1) It is an unattractive card;
2) The signatures are hard to decipher (I can barely tell if they run top to bottom or bottom to top);
3) The card is not from a popular set;
4) Nobody has a nostalgic connection to this card (I’m not talking about the ATHLETES—of course people love Kobe and MJ).

So I don’t get the record price tag. But I am glad to see new people and new money migrate into the hobby. That is healthy. Maybe Mr. Wonderful will discover T206.

I'm not sure this is in your wheelhouse, given those points.

1). That is subjective. But logoman cards are the single most popular cards among ultra-modern basketball collectors, and many love how they look.

2). If you know the signatures of those two athletes, they are not hard to decipher, nor are they hard to tell which direction they run.

3). Tell me you have no clue about modern cards without telling me. Upper Deck Exquisite is the absolute peak set for popularity and desire of basketball cards EVER. It is considered the top of the basketball mountain.

4). See above. Every single high end modern basketball collector right now has nostalgia for UD Exquisite logomen. The nostalgia for Exquisite is what fuels the ultra modern Panini RPA craze with sets like Flawless and NT, and is the reason why Fanatics is now inserting logoman patches in Baseball sets. As the licenses migrate to Fanatics, they will continue to play to the basketball/football market's demand for these cards. Why? All because of the insane popularity and nostalgia for mid 2000s Exquisite.

samosa4u · #19 08-27-2025, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

3). Tell me you have no clue about modern cards without telling me. Upper Deck Exquisite is the absolute peak set for popularity and desire of basketball cards EVER. It is considered the top of the basketball mountain.

National Treasures (NT) is the top of the basketball mountain, IMO. Upper Deck lost the NBA license around 2009 and Panini has been making the NT RPAs for the past fifteen years. Many of the top basketball rookies were made during the Panini era: Steph Curry, Luka Doncic, Jayson Tatum, Greek Freak, Caitlin Clark, etc.

sreader3 · #20 08-31-2025, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I'm not sure this is in your wheelhouse, given those points.

1). That is subjective. But logoman cards are the single most popular cards among ultra-modern basketball collectors, and many love how they look.

2). If you know the signatures of those two athletes, they are not hard to decipher, nor are they hard to tell which direction they run.

3). Tell me you have no clue about modern cards without telling me. Upper Deck Exquisite is the absolute peak set for popularity and desire of basketball cards EVER. It is considered the top of the basketball mountain.

4). See above. Every single high end modern basketball collector right now has nostalgia for UD Exquisite logomen. The nostalgia for Exquisite is what fuels the ultra modern Panini RPA craze with sets like Flawless and NT, and is the reason why Fanatics is now inserting logoman patches in Baseball sets. As the licenses migrate to Fanatics, they will continue to play to the basketball/football market's demand for these cards. Why? All because of the insane popularity and nostalgia for mid 2000s Exquisite.

Thanks for your response. These are fair points. Here is my reply:

1) In my opinion, it is an ugly card. Let me cite the T206 Lajoie (With Bat) for comparison.
2) In my opinion, it is hard to decipher the signatures. Let me cite Harmon Killebrew's signature for comparison.
3 & 4) I don't believe that "UD Exquisite logomen" has achieved status in the hobby anywhere near N172, T206, 1933 Goudey or 1952 Topps. Or any other Topps set for that matter. I have never heard of it until you mentioned it. But I don't rule-out that "UD Exquisite logomen" might be more popular. Let's take a poll!

And I certainly do not think that collecting and investing are mutually exclusive!

theshowandme · #21 08-25-2025, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by puckpaul

Yeah, Mamdani is an obvious anti-Semite and has racist upbringing and Muslim brotherhood connections. He wants to defund the police and eliminate misdemeanors. Breath of fresh air? More like the stench of a Trojan Horse. There are so many reasons the should be outright rejected. Raising taxes is the last one.

All I asked is what card will break the record next

Eric72 · #22 08-25-2025, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

All I asked is what card will break the record next

This one. Maybe.

raulus · #23 08-25-2025, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

All I asked is what card will break the record next

I mean�seems like the most obvious answer for this crowd is going to be a 311 Mantle, a T206 Wagner, or pick your favorite high grade early Ruth.

But from the looks of it, some fugly modern card that a few people go nuts over will be the correct answer.

Leon · #24 08-27-2025, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by puckpaul

Yeah, Mamdani is an obvious anti-Semite and has racist upbringing and Muslim brotherhood connections. He wants to defund the police and eliminate misdemeanors. Breath of fresh air? More like the stench of a Trojan Horse. There are so many reasons the should be outright rejected. Raising taxes is the last one.

How is this not a political post? I realize it was in response to a comment but this one crossed the line.
Infraction given.

frankbmd · #25 08-27-2025, 09:18 AM

Pokemon and Logoman are eerily similar.

Balticfox · #26 08-26-2025, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Every wealthy old white guy's bogeyman du jour, a guy who wants to tax the rich a tiny bit more. Oh, the horror!

You realize of course that taxes aren't voluntary. The State extracts them by force. That there is the problem. Yet that seems to bother you not at all so long as the State is taking somebody else's money.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #27 08-27-2025, 07:35 AM

Is there any chance the Political BS from both sides can go somewhere else???

SyrNy1960 · #28 08-27-2025, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aquarian sports cards

is there any chance the political bs from both sides can go somewhere else???

+100

theshowandme · #29 08-27-2025, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Is there any chance the Political BS from both sides can go somewhere else???

I have had multiple DMs, emails, and text messages from others saying the type of responses on this thread are part of the reason they stopped posting and sharing their own pickups here on Net54.

To me that is unfortunate knowing the quality of those collections and the collective wisdom of those board members.

The politics, outright hatred for modern cards, etc. is comical at times but it's exhausting.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #30 08-27-2025, 08:34 AM

While the politics can assuredly dissipate, the majority of people here seem to share a distaste for modern material. Completely understandable. As someone else pointed out in another thread, it's supposedly the same hobby, but it really isn't. For our end of things, its greatest redeeming quality is in being the gateway drug in bringing a few people over to vintage. We can be thankful for that aspect.

BioCRN · #31 08-27-2025, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

While the politics can assuredly dissipate, the majority of people here seem to share a distaste for modern material. Completely understandable. As someone else pointed out in another thread, it's supposedly the same hobby, but it really isn't. For our end of things, its greatest redeeming quality is in being the gateway drug in bringing a few people over to vintage. We can be thankful for that aspect.

There is a casual vintage board on Reddit with a rather steady influx of new collectors and collectors returning to the hobby that have either fulfilled their "modern" wants and/or they're tired of spending big money on busting ultra-modern packs/boxes/breaks/etc.

While anecdotal, there does seem to be a steady pipeline creating vintage collectors from the non-vintage entry point.

I imagine there's other corners of the internet experiencing the same thing.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #32 08-27-2025, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BioCRN

There is a casual vintage board on Reddit with a rather steady influx of new collectors and collectors returning to the hobby that have either fulfilled their "modern" wants and/or they're tired of spending big money on busting ultra-modern packs/boxes/breaks/etc.

While anecdotal, there does seem to be a steady pipeline creating vintage collectors from the non-vintage entry point.

I imagine there's other corners of the internet experiencing the same thing.

I've been saying for years that the process of creating new vintage collectors has never really changed. Everyone starts as a kid buying what's current, collecting their heroes etc. Let's say something crazy like 10 million kids each generation buy cards at some point. Some weren't really that interested, some decide they like girls better, some lose interest when they leave home etc, so let's say that only 10% keep collecting past the age of 18. That leaves 1 million collectors. Eventually some percentage of those become more interested in the history of their team, or the game, or even the hobby and the natural progression is to older stuff. If that number is 10% that's 100,000 new vintage collectors every generation.

My numbers may be completely nuts, who knows but that process I've seen a couple times now and as I age I expect to see it several more times over.

Balticfox · #33 08-27-2025, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BioCRN

While anecdotal, there does seem to be a steady pipeline creating vintage collectors from the non-vintage entry point.

Interesting! I don't know whether I'm typical but I now collect Baseball cards that were issued seven years, but only seven, before the first Baseball cards I bought as a kid.

Leon · #34 08-27-2025, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

I have had multiple DMs, emails, and text messages from others saying the type of responses on this thread are part of the reason they stopped posting and sharing their own pickups here on Net54.

To me that is unfortunate knowing the quality of those collections and the collective wisdom of those board members.

The politics, outright hatred for modern cards, etc. is comical at times but it's exhausting.

They need to grow thicker skin or stay on the sidelines. I have read this thread many times, and to me, it hasn't gotten too politically out of hand. Yes, a few political innuendos come in at different times, but does anyone really want draconian rules where members have to be on eggshells about what they say? That said, there is no room for political discussions on the forum.

And, an infraction was given for a post that was over the top political.
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Aquarian Sports Cards · #35 08-27-2025, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

They need to grow thicker skin or stay on the sidelines. I have read this thread many times, and to me, it hasn't gotten too politically out of hand. Yes, a few political innuendos come in at different times, but does anyone really want draconian rules where members have to be on eggshells about what they say? That said, there is no room for political discussions on the forum.

And, an infraction was given for a post that was over the top political.
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To me it's not so much about thin skin, I included both sides in my post (even the side I happen to agree with) for a reason. If I wanted to read a bunch of political bickering and name calling I can literally go ANYWHERE else on the internet, Net54 is my respite from this. I hate to stop opening certain threads because they turn into the same drivel I see everywhere else I look.

Not the end of the world either way for me, I'm not going to pout and stop participating, just an observation.

Leon · #36 08-27-2025, 10:21 AM

I agree.
I don't want to read politics on the forum either. At the same time I want to be careful not to over-moderate. Everyone should have a right to show their arse...then we know who they are.

As for the trio of buyers, we should just be glad they haven't ventured into vintage yet. I can't compete already but with more billionaire investors it won't make it easier. I hope they stay with the shiny stuff.

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

To me it's not so much about thin skin, I included both sides in my post (even the side I happen to agree with) for a reason. If I wanted to read a bunch of political bickering and name calling I can literally go ANYWHERE else on the internet, Net54 is my respite from this. I hate to stop opening certain threads because they turn into the same drivel I see everywhere else I look.

Not the end of the world either way for me, I'm not going to pout and stop participating, just an observation.

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