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Old 07-09-2025, 11:38 AM
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In many ways, I've given up trying to keep up with PSA's rules, and often trying to get them to apply them consistently is a real challenge as well. I just sort of flail about, and every once in a while something will work out for me. Most of the time it doesn't.
I took a deep dive into the player master sets a bunch of years ago when I first got involved with the Clemente master set. My conclusions:

1) The inclusion/exclusion of items in the master sets are almost as inconsistent as their grading lately.
2) You want to drive yourself really crazy? Try to understand how and dive into the "weighting" they give to each item. I spent a lot of hours challenging, supporting, dialoguing about this for the Clemente set. Back then often times with some degree of success/understanding. The last couple of times I tried, I echo Nicolo's sentiment above.
3) They will not even grade (obviously can't include what they don't grade) legitimate variations like the Salada 180/200 backs and 1969 Nabisco wide/Narrow border, but have 3 slots for every year of Bazooka (single, panel & box) and multiple slots for chopping up 1969 and 1970 Transogram boxes, including the tiny "side panel" images.

PSA sets the goalposts and moves them how/when they want/choose to. Our only choice so far seems to be to play or not.
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Old 07-09-2025, 02:46 PM
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2) You want to drive yourself really crazy? Try to understand how and dive into the "weighting" they give to each item. I spent a lot of hours challenging, supporting, dialoguing about this for the Clemente set. Back then often times with some degree of success/understanding. The last couple of times I tried, I echo Nicolo's sentiment above.
The weighting is definitely bollocks. At times, it seems to be based on how much something costs. At other times, it seems to be based on how rare it is. And other times it's based on how desirable it is. But there's no question that they seem to dramatically under-weight a lot of the oddball issues, which are often incredibly difficult to find, at least relative to the mainline issues.
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Old 07-09-2025, 04:33 PM
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I am not a graded collector and have seen and heard all the discussions over the years about PSA's "foibles".

The one thing that gets me is say, for example, if a Dad's Cookie card is listed in the checklist for the Mays Master set, EVERY card on the Dad's Cookies checklist should be automatically included on each players Master set checklist.

I know, I know, collectors can ask for the card to be added to a guys checklist, but why should they have to ask? Seems to me to be laziness on the part of PSA.

And if there is no Master set for some player in the set so be it. With computers now a days if someone was to start a new player Master set it should be easy for PSA to get a list of that players cards.
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