eBay trying to remove sniping

jayshum · #1 07-08-2025, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dariushou

Very simple. The number of bidders will decrease. For one, it increases the opportunity of shill bidders which will turn off some bidders such ad myself. Two, I have better things to do with my time than sit at computer all day when ebay auctions end at all times of the day. There will be bidders such as myself who will not bid on such auctions. Plain and simple. Just not for me and I buy a lot.

Most major auction houses already do what eBay is now testing and possibly going to switch to. From the results of most auctions, it doesn't seem like they are hurting for bidders. Just curious but do you not bid in any of those auctions because of their extended bidding rules?

Lorewalker · #2 07-08-2025, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

Most major auction houses already do what eBay is now testing and possibly going to switch to. From the results of most auctions, it doesn't seem like they are hurting for bidders. Just curious but do you not bid in any of those auctions because of their extended bidding rules?

eBay is 24/7/365 and as such is a dynamic experience. Auction houses have catalogs that have a limited amount of items that end on a particular day.

I am not as smart as most who have posted that it will be great or horrible for sellers. I just know that most people hate change. Many people hate eBay and their changes usually screw up the site and lastly, nothing has ever stopped a collector from trying to buy something that they want. If we can all overlook blatant fraud and still bid, a little change like this should not be an obstacle.

OhioLawyerF5 · #3 07-08-2025, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

Most major auction houses already do what eBay is now testing and possibly going to switch to. From the results of most auctions, it doesn't seem like they are hurting for bidders. Just curious but do you not bid in any of those auctions because of their extended bidding rules?

If an auction house ends their auction at 2 am, yes, I am not bidding in extended bidding in those auctions. And therein lies the difference between ebay and an auction house. It's not an insignificant difference.

jayshum · #4 07-08-2025, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker

eBay is 24/7/365 and as such is a dynamic experience. Auction houses have catalogs that have a limited amount of items that end on a particular day.

I am not as smart as most who have posted that it will be great or horrible for sellers. I just know that most people hate change. Many people hate eBay and their changes usually screw up the site and lastly, nothing has ever stopped a collector from trying to buy something that they want. If we can all overlook blatant fraud and still bid, a little change like this should not be an obstacle.

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

If an auction house ends their auction at 2 am, yes, I am not bidding in extended bidding in those auctions. And therein lies the difference between ebay and an auction house. It's not an insignificant difference.

No one says you have to stay up until 2AM because that's when extended bidding lasts until. All auctions that I am aware of allow you to place a maximum bid that will be bid up to automatically if necessary to keep you as the high bidder. If you don't want to bid that way because you're worried about shill bidding, that's your decision.

As for the comment about people hating change, you're definitely right about that. There were plenty of threads in the past about eBay not doing anything about fake items being listed. As soon as they introduced the authenticity guarantee, there were plenty of threads complaining about it. While it's not perfect, I would guess it has cut down considerably on fake items being sold. Similarly, I'd be surprised if switching to an extended bidding format will really impact prices negatively. For all the people who say they won't bid any more or will bid less, there will be many others who will bid more and higher because they have the chance to keep bidding to win something they really want. That's the psychology of an auction that leads people to pay more than they were planning in the first place.

icollectDCsports · #5 07-08-2025, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum

Similarly, I'd be surprised if switching to an extended bidding format will really impact prices negatively. For all the people who say they won't bid any more or will bid less, there will be many others who will bid more and higher because they have the chance to keep bidding to win something they really want. That's the psychology of an auction that leads people to pay more than they were planning in the first place.

That�s the way I see it. In time, some people will decide to bid in fewer if any eBay auctions that use this extended time format. But some of the people who do bid will end up bidding more than they would under the current format. The impact on final prices? It could go either way and I�m not sure we�ll know for sure unless there is an obvious change one way or the other for prices for comparable items before and after the new system is implemented.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #6 07-08-2025, 11:56 AM

A lot of people value and appreciate the hard closings of eBay auctions. This system has been in place for 30 years and has made them ungodly amounts of money. As others have noted, yes, they'd be changing this in an effort to make more money for their sellers, but the bottom line is always to make more money for themselves. They are doing just fine without being even more greedy. We're all their customers, whether we're buying or selling.

There is something great about seeing "Item ends at 10:02 a.m. on July 8" and knowing that at any time after 10:02:01, I can hop on there and be given a definitive answer if I have won or lost an auction. After that time, I can move on with other matters in my life.

As to auction house end times:

In my younger days, I might stay awake until stupid o'clock following along, or going to bed at a normal hour, but losing sleep, wondering if I had won anything and not being able to sleep as a result. Frankly, as gentle a version as it may be, these late hours are an unwelcome form of torture on the part of auction houses, especially when a hard close could give everyone who puts food on their table and pays for their children's educations a better night's rest. Not to mention, the auction house staff could also turn in at a decent hour! But, follow the money. Always the money.

Fine, keep your 15 minute rule, but finalize everything by 10:00 p.m. EST. Done. Finished. Customers/consignors can know what they bought or sold and can get ready for the coming day. This is fair to both coasts and those in the middle. Practically everybody has a smart phone so they can view and bid wherever, whenever. 7:00 p.m. on the west coast is good enough. If it isn't, then fine, how about 8:00? Not a nanosecond later. Nobody seems to be doing this, why? What are the reasons for these super late closings, again? Can't we move past this, please? Oh yeah, I guess we can't. They wouldn't want to miss out on the late night overbidding of all the Joe Imbibers out there.

Brian Van Horn · #7 07-09-2025, 03:51 AM

Oh, great! I'll be watching a football game and when it gets to the two minute warning I'll be thinking about eBay. Well, so much for shill bidding anonymous.

YazFenway08 · #8 07-09-2025, 10:05 PM

For the first time tonight, I had two snipes fail.

Piddly stuff�but stuff I wanted nonetheless.

I was the high bidder (or would have been) but I �lost� due to �too many requests� I had never seen that before, but when I did some research I found some threads from years ago where this happened to other folks.

Is this directly related to this new eBay policy/attempt to stop sniping�or something else?

I won several auctions yesterday�so this was weird.

icurnmedic · #9 07-09-2025, 11:40 PM

Not sure how it will affect sellers, but it will definitely remove me from serious bidding.
I�m not going to bid my highest the first day.
I usually like to watch and get a feel of what others are thinking.
Then the last couple of days, will put my snipe in. Win some lose some but overall a recipe for success for me anyway.
I don�t have the time to sit around and watch every auction finish, as I may be bidding on 25 at a time.
Again, YMMV.

Balticfox · #10 07-10-2025, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by icurnmedic

Not sure how it will affect sellers, but it will definitely remove me from serious bidding.
I�m not going to bid my highest the first day.
I usually like to watch and get a feel of what others are thinking.
Then the last couple of days, will put my snipe in.

I don't understand why you'd need to do any differently with the rule change. You'd still win some, lose some.

Schlesinj · #11 07-10-2025, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by YazFenway08

For the first time tonight, I had two snipes fail.

Piddly stuff�but stuff I wanted nonetheless.

I was the high bidder (or would have been) but I �lost� due to �too many requests� I had never seen that before, but when I did some research I found some threads from years ago where this happened to other folks.

Is this directly related to this new eBay policy/attempt to stop sniping�or something else?

I won several auctions yesterday�so this was weird.

I doubt it. The auction would have extended. Not sure this is has started yet.

toledo_mudhen · #12 08-18-2025, 08:15 AM

Have been on eBay for 30ish years now - Both as Bidder and Seller.

When I am buying I simply enter the total dollar amount that I am willing to pay for the card and if I win - FINE and if I lose - FINE.

When I am selling I typically add the Buy It Now option in all of my auction items.

Very rarely do I see anything that makes me want to "stay glued to the screen" in order to win.

Exhibitman · #13 08-18-2025, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

When I am buying I simply enter the total dollar amount that I am willing to pay for the card and if I win - FINE and if I lose - FINE.

Do this with a snipe and you won’t have to show your max until the end. Keeps you from getting run up.

perezfan · #14 08-18-2025, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Do this with a snipe and you won�t have to show your max until the end. Keeps you from getting run up.

Exactly. It�s been a no-brainer strategy for the past 20 years. Cumulatively it had probably saved millions of dollars for winning bidders over the years.

CardPadre · #15 08-18-2025, 12:45 PM

Has anybody here actually seen an auction end this way? Nothing I've bid on since this announcement was made has used this extended bidding style.

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