scarcity of lesser known T207 players

[jboosted92]

Originally Posted by markf31

Tim Newcomb wrote a great article detailing some of the nuances of the set.

https://oldcardboard.com/eNews/2010/.../eNews74.htm#2

great read

[timn1]

Originally Posted by jboosted92

great read

Hi all,
Thanks for the kind words about my research, which is now 20 years old , holy cow!

Since then I've watched some fluctuations in what seem to be the toughest t207s. For a while it seemed like Donlin was the toughest of them all, but then a few of them came out of the woodwork and I began to think that somebody flying beneath the radar, as Donlin had once done, might be hardest. Somebody like Mogridge.

In any case, I'm still convinced that Lowdermilk and Ward Miller are overpriced relative to their scarcity, and several others underpriced.

Concerning the "obscurity of the players" theory, i agree that it must play a big role in some sets like T3 and Worch Cigar. With sets like t207 or t204 where cards were pulled from packs it still plays a role, but somewhat smaller.

With t207, I'm guessing something else was operating with some players, especially Donlin, who was a bona fide star even beyond basebal, from his vaudeville exploits. If anything he would have been collected more enthusiastically than the average player. He was with Pittsburgh the whole season but only played in 35 of the first 89 games, so it's imaginable that he was added into the set later in the season. But then there would be an odd number of players, not a round 200 total with 50 Broadleafs. So that seems unlikely.

In any case, some of the tough ones like Lowdermilk and Irv Lewis, are ultra-obscure guys. But there were several others equally obscure in the Broadleaf group who are much easier to find. And Ward Miller, for example, was a starter for several years.

So a clear pattern is hard to trace. But it's fun to speculate.

Tim

[ValKehl]

Yes, let's hear it for George Mogridge, without whose pitching contributions the Senators likely would not have won the 1924 World Series! If Mogridge is the toughest T207, I'm glad to have examples of what I think are all 4 cards of Mogridge that are known to exist. FYI, I am not a T207 collector; rather, I collect cards of all the players on the 1924 Senators team. And because Leon likes threads to have pics, here are my Mogridges (a couple of which I'd be happy to upgrade - hint, hint!):

[timn1]

Well, clearly Mogridge isn’t so tough after all. It’s just that Val has them all

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by timn1

Well, clearly Mogridge isn’t so tough after all. It’s just that Val has them all

LOL! Good one, Tim! LOL!

[minibbcards]

Great discussion and links for me to bookmark for future references.

[Bridwell]

The players who can be found with Recruit backs are more common than the tougher Broadleaf/Cycle players. Some of the lowest populations of graded cards are these:

Adams
Bauman
Birmingham
Bushelman
Donlin
Donnelly
Houser
Kuhn
Mogridge

Finding any of these in Excellent or better condition is very tough.