1965 Topps Series 6 semi-high Sheet Reconstruction

deweyinthehall · #1 06-28-2025, 06:28 PM

Found this Battey on eBay today. I thought for certain I'd be able to ID the card above him, but after several attempts I keep coming up empty. The likeliest candidate may be Cloninger, but there'd be more black ink on the Battey side. See what you think...

Cliff Bowman · #2 06-29-2025, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Found this Battey on eBay today. I thought for certain I'd be able to ID the card above him, but after several attempts I keep coming up empty. The likeliest candidate may be Cloninger, but there'd be more black ink on the Battey side. See what you think...

It can also be Nottebart, Ellis, Horlen, or Azcue. ETA I noticed that it lines up with the center of the baseball and Cloninger is the only one that does so you are probably right.

deweyinthehall · #3 07-06-2025, 06:12 PM

Found this Gagliano with an Oriole or Astro to his left.

I have Gagliano as an all-but-certainly 4x.

These O's and Astros I have as likely or certainly 3xs so they would not be candidates: Grote, Miller, O's Rookies, Nottebart, Siebern.

These likely or probably 4xs could be his neighbor:
Rowe, Owens, Fox.

Sadly, none of these can be take out of the running automatically because we don't have any of them paired with anyone to their right yet.

Thoughts?

Kevvyg1026 · #4 07-07-2025, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Found this Gagliano with an Oriole or Astro to his left.

I have Gagliano as an all-but-certainly 4x.

These O's and Astros I have as likely or certainly 3xs so they would not be candidates: Grote, Miller, O's Rookies, Nottebart, Siebern.

These likely or probably 4xs could be his neighbor:
Rowe, Owens, Fox.

Sadly, none of these can be take out of the running automatically because we don't have any of them paired with anyone to their right yet.

Thoughts?

I show Fox with Cloninger to his right. I have Owens with Harrelson to the right. And, even though the counts on Grote suggest he might be a 3x, those counts may be deflated because he is/was a popular Met. I think Cliff possibly put Grote to the right of Rowe.

Gene Stephens, a definite 4x, has a black card to his left (Yankees TC) and a black card to his right, which might be Gagliano.

65 6 cloninger.jpg

Kevvyg1026 · #5 07-07-2025, 07:51 AM

However, this is pretty strong evidence that it is an Oriole or Astro next to Gagliano. So perhaps it is not Harrelson next to Owen, but rather Gagliano? However, to me, the trademark location on the Gagliano miscut looks more like that on the Grote card, not those on the Rowe or Owens cards.

1965_503_gagliano_left.jpg

Cliff Bowman · #6 07-07-2025, 08:51 AM

[QUOTE=Kevvyg1026;2526061]I show Fox with Cloninger to his right. I have Owens with Harrelson to the right. [QUOTE]

I think I am wrong now about Harrelson being to the right of Owens. It probably is Owens to the left of Gagliano, Owens has a black border card to his right. I will have to go back and look at all of the possibilities tonight.

deweyinthehall · #7 07-07-2025, 06:00 PM

I don't think I'd seen that Deans Gagliano with the exposed edge on the reverse. I think it has to be Owens - counts suggest it strongly, and if you look closely at the blue/white border on the adjacent card, there is a slight defect/bump right where the curve begins that seems to be consistent with other Owens cards I've seen.

If true, this places Gagliano, Allen, Angels Rookies 517 and Mota in column 2, and we have Cardinals Rookies in #3.

Kevvyg1026 · #8 07-08-2025, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

I don't think I'd seen that Deans Gagliano with the exposed edge on the reverse. I think it has to be Owens - counts suggest it strongly, and if you look closely at the blue/white border on the adjacent card, there is a slight defect/bump right where the curve begins that seems to be consistent with other Owens cards I've seen.

If true, this places Gagliano, Allen, Angels Rookies 517 and Mota in column 2, and we have Cardinals Rookies in #3.

When I match the resolutions for the back of the Rowe, Owens, Grote, and Gagliano MC, it appears to me that the trademark location on Owens matches that on the Gagliano MC perfectly.

Now, the problem I'm having is that either the Angels RS is not above Gagliano, or else, the Fox-Cloninger-Angels RS run, which I thought was solid, is incorrect.

Also, a checklist should be in Col 2, if the pattern of every other slit was maintained, as described below.

In series 1, col 2 had check 2, Col 11 had both checklist 1s.
In series 2, col 2 had check 2, col 11 had check 3
In series 3, col 2 had check 4, col 11 had check 3
In series 4, col 2 had check 4, col 11 had check 5
In series 5, col 2 had check 6, col 11 had check 5,
In series 7, col 2 had no check, col 11 had check 7

So, I expect that in Series 6, col 2 will have check 6, col 11 check 7. The check 6 variation in series 6 should be the one with the "full m" shown on the back near card 481.

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