Juan Soto -- looking like a bust for the Mets

[John1941]

Originally Posted by bk400

I also think that this "generational" label is being batted around too casually. Soto has had a great career so far, but generational?

If getting on base is a talent, Soto is a generational talent. No one else in this generation (and very few in history) can beat him in taking walks and getting on base (with the possible exception of Judge, but Judge is a very different kind of hitter.)

[Peter_Spaeth]

2 hits, 2 RBI. He's back!!!!

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

2 hits, 2 RBI. He's back!!!!

That's right!! He's back! And anyone who thought Juan Soto was a bum, is a bum.

[Peter_Spaeth]

And Acuna is finally playing again.

[bk400]

You know what I love about Lindor? He's miked up during the game, he talks up his embattled teammate Soto, and he turns an awesome double play.

And Soto? The guy is slumping, but he managed to help win the game with his hustle and defense!

Mets rock. Watch out LA. We're coming for you.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by bk400

You know what I love about Lindor? He's miked up during the game, he talks up his embattled teammate Soto, and he turns an awesome double play.

And Soto? The guy is slumping, but he managed to help win the game with his hustle and defense!

Mets rock. Watch out LA. We're coming for you.

So he's not a bust any more until his next bad game? Got it.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by jayshum

So he's not a bust any more until his next bad game? Got it.

That's right! I am happy to expose my intellectual inconsistencies where they lie.

[bk400]

And Lindor and Soto come through again (even though Soto didn't have any hits again)! Lindor is the best. Granted, it's the White Sox, but a W is a W.

[Peter_Spaeth]

All three runs in the game on sac flies. Old style baseball.

[WhatsNext]

Such a loser post. He and the Mets are fine.

Statcast has Soto's expected slash line so far at .300/.421/.582 (xOPS of 1.003), compared to his actual line of .233/.363.409. He's just gotten (very) unlucky. Nothing to worry about.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by WhatsNext

Such a loser post. He and the Mets are fine.

Statcast has Soto's expected slash line so far at .300/.421/.582 (xOPS of 1.003), compared to his actual line of .233/.363.409. He's just gotten (very) unlucky. Nothing to worry about.

Yes, John1941 made the Statcast point earlier in the thread, which is a good one. This said, if we went by Statcast predictions instead of actual results, Aaron Judge catches that ball in the 5th inning of last year's World Series and Freddie Freeman doesn't hit the grand slam in Game 1. The Knicks don't choke Game 1 last week, and the Pacers don't give away Game 3. The 2007 Patriots beat the Giants and poor Arthur Blank isn't a meme.

And finally, I suppose that if the stakes in one's life are such that making lighthearted, fan-talk posts constitutes loser behavior, then yes, I guess I'm a loser.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Kevlo17

Less then 2 months into a contract seems a bit early to be labeling it a bust....

The Mets are already over a third of the way into the season. That's starting to be significant.

Originally Posted by Kevlo17

...when the guy carries a 1.6 bWAR and a 133 ops+. Those numbers aren't up to Soto's career standards, but they are far from shabby.

This though is the same guy who just signed a record setting contract. His numbers aren't exactly record setting. In fact I'd label his current .224 batting average as very disappointing. Granted I do need to give him credit for being on pace to set a personal high for stolen bases.

Originally Posted by WhatsNext

Such a loser post. He and the Mets are fine.

You should post more often. We're not often treated to such rare insight.

Originally Posted by WhatsNext

He's just gotten (very) unlucky. Nothing to worry about.

Methinks he needs to start hitting the ball where it's pitched to improve his "luck".

[bk400]

The good news for Soto is he's got the venerable Rockies pitching staff coming up. When the White Sox are too good, you can count on the Rockies.

[Balticfox]

It's not just Juan Soto though. The Mets are now trying to be like the Yankees and win with their payroll instead of playing good fundamental baseball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOwxfFjVDYE

The Mets should go back to being the anti-Yankees and offer New York baseball fans an alternative instead of an echo.

[Peter_Spaeth]

He went 2-4 last night. Maybe he's coming out of it. Besides, what player in history (other than maybe Hank Aaron) has not gone through a slump? It's baseball.

A HR and a walk today. Oh ye of no faith.