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Old 05-26-2025, 04:25 PM
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Holy moley!!!

I believe I have solved this riddle.

Look closely at where Roberto Clemente's name appears on the sheet. First, how much lower it sits than the card directly above his and the Steve Blass card (and quite a few others on the sheet).
Also look at the amount of white space between each player's name and the large capital 'E' below them. It is entirely inconsistent, and Clemente is clearly one of the anomalies — his name comes quite closer to it than a lot of the others (look at the vast white space there on the card directly above his, as well as others).

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Conclusion: if the sheets were all cut the same way, then it would be an absolute rarity to have cards where Clemente's name (and others, of course) were NOT close to the bottom borders.

I imagine tracking down players who have similar name placements to Clemente would show their cards to also be off-centered the vast majority of time.
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Wow, I missed that entirely — you’re absolutely right! They couldn’t cut it any lower.

One thing I find sad about this set is that even 11 years in, he couldn’t get called by his real first name in his own city on a card!
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To further illustrate the point, I grabbed this pic from eBay and it makes the differences in name placement absolutely clear (ignore the fact the Clemente card is a tad bit shorter top-to-bottom—which from experience is very often the case)...

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Now think of the insanity of all of this:
Since Roberto Clemente's name was placed so erroneously low in the layout, it means that all properly sheet-cut cards were naturally OFF-CENTERED (to a grader's eye),
which also means that the very few which are found 'centered' were literally cut OFF-CENTERED to appear that way!!!

Hence, all PSA 9 OC cards should be PSA 9, and all PSA 9 cards should be PSA 9 OC.

Can't make this stuff up.

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HAHAHA! I appreciate the card, man!
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I have noticed that the Vernon Law card is available in far less quantity than the rest of the set. I bought a large lot of these that was about 25 of each. There were only 10 Law cards in the lot.
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I have noticed that the Vernon Law card is available in far less quantity than the rest of the set. I bought a large lot of these that was about 25 of each. There were only 10 Law cards in the lot.
That is interesting -- looks like there's just one signed one on eBay right now.

When I saw that lot of 180 Clementes from 2018, I wondered if they ran a few sheets of just him.
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The apparent GOAT of the set -- sold for $2,640 in 2020 ... seems like a bargain now.
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