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Old 05-22-2025, 03:33 PM
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Don't know where you've been my friend, but there was a years long investigation by the FBI. It was discussed on this forum ad nauseum.
LOL! Well someone earlier on this thread had no idea that the T206 Wagner 8 was trimmed. Not sure if that means two people here are not dialed in 24/7 to the hobby or if they are not paying attention.
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The worst possible scenario would be someone who's real tight with at least 1 of the graders, who then gives their vintage cards 8's, 9's or even a 10 knowing they're overgrading, for a cut of the profits.
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The worst possible scenario would be someone who's real tight with at least 1 of the graders, who then gives their vintage cards 8's, 9's or even a 10 knowing they're overgrading, for a cut of the profits.
That's called fraud, and they could both do some serious time for it. If you see something, say something. What have you got?
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Old 05-26-2025, 08:47 AM
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I don’t have solid proof without whistleblowers, however there is certainly enough circumstantial smoke to lean toward preferential grading for premier newsworthy items and mass submitters. The amount of high grades on borderline cards from places like 4 Sharp certainly raises some curiosity. I’ll play it safe on my statements, but I would say to make your own observations.
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Money talks EVERYWHERE. Why naively think it doesn't happen with cards?
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Money talks EVERYWHERE. Why naively think it doesn't happen with cards?
I don't believe. I just can't believe it. Can you provide evidence or some kind of proof to your assertion?
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I don't believe. I just can't believe it. Can you provide evidence or some kind of proof to your assertion?
No one wants all the BS that comes with providing proof. I used to call out a lot of the crooks in our hobby. I have had a fellow member have his lawyer send me a nice letter, I have had a fellow member and several of his friends attack my ebay account by buying everything I had listed and then on the last day possible they all filed returns, I have had a fellow member straight up call me many many horrible names and say he can and will do anything he wants to the cards he sells, and that is just a small portion of what I have personally endured from calling out hobby scum. Now and for several years I just figure F the morons buying their altered crap and don't feel sorry for those being taken advantage of in the least.
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