Juan Soto -- looking like a bust for the Mets

[Snapolit1]

People never tire of saying stupid things based on small samples.

Last May Lindor was the worst contract in baseball history. Now this May it's Soto. Next year it will be some other guy. Probably Pete.

Keeps sports radio going all day and all night.

[packs]

Same guy who says this about Soto would have been calling Judge a bum for hitting 207 over March and April last year.

If anyone needs a reminder, Judge went on to win MVP.

[bk400]

Lindor was never accused of dogging it, as far as I remember. He was accused of sucking relative to his contract value, but that's different.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

People never tire of saying stupid things based on small samples.

Last May Lindor was the worst contract in baseball history. Now this May it's Soto. Next year it will be some other guy. Probably Pete.

Keeps sports radio going all day and all night.

In 46 games in 2020 Shohei hit .190. Obviously he was DOA.

[bk400]

I would love to be proven wrong and see the Mets go on to win the World Series this year. And see Soto evolve into the second coming of Keith Hernandez in terms of fan base love.

But I think Soto is a bad attitude guy. Lindor, Judge and Ohtani have all gone through rough stretches, but they are all good attitude guys.

To be honest, it should have been a giant red flag for the Mets when Soto showed that he was willing to leave the Yankees -- where he seemed to have been loved by everyone and fit in well and made the WS -- for an extra 0.65% and a luxury box for his family.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by bk400

To be honest, it should have been a giant red flag for the Mets when Soto showed that he was willing to leave the Yankees

C'mon this is just silly!

[John1941]

I say this is a bereaved Yankees fan:

I wouldn't give up on Soto so soon. He's a generational talent. His attitude may not be perfect but remember that he's still just 26; he has time to mature. There's cause for concern but this is not a doomsday Soto scenario.

This doesn't address attitude concerns, but I think Soto's been unlucky thus far this season. If you go on Baseball Savant and look at Soto's Statcast numbers, he has an expected batting average of .309 and expected slugging percentage of .595. With his walks, that gives him an expected weighted on-base percentage of .433, which is elite. If he keeps on hitting the ball like that his stats will fall in line.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by John1941

I say this is a bereaved Yankees fan:

I wouldn't give up on Soto so soon. He's a generational talent. His attitude may not be perfect but remember that he's still just 26; he has time to mature. There's cause for concern but this is not a doomsday Soto scenario.

This doesn't address attitude concerns, but I think Soto's been unlucky thus far this season. If you go on Baseball Savant and look at Soto's Statcast numbers, he has an expected batting average of .309 and expected slugging percentage of .595. With his walks, that gives him an expected weighted on-base percentage of .433, which is elite. If he keeps on hitting the ball like that his stats will fall in line.

This makes me feel a bit better about it. Fingers crossed...

[bk400]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

C'mon this is just silly!

You cut off the last part of my quote. The part about the reason for his leaving was an extra 0.65 percent and a luxury box for his family.

I can see leaving your job for 0.65 percent more and, say, a partial education stipend for your kids, if you are making $30,000 a year and trying to feed a family while living hand to mouth. But not when it is 0.65 percent on $760 million (plus whatever it costs for a luxury box).