Red Schoendienst Need list. Rare issues needed!

[dstudeba]

Do you have an example of a Wilson Franks blank back? I have never seen one in 20 years of collecting that issue.

If you find any 54 or 55 Hunters Wieners of any player I would be interested.

Thanks

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Do you have an example of a Wilson Franks blank back? I have never seen one in 20 years of collecting that issue.

If you find any 54 or 55 Hunters Wieners of any player I would be interested.

Thanks

Dan, the 54 Wilson Frank blank backs are actually more simple than you may think. They are simply hand cut from the display poster that didn't print anything on the backs of the cards. So every card is possible with a blank back. I've seen 1 or 2 blank backs so at least 1 display was cut up (not sure if it was cut in modern day or not) but for obvious reasons they're extremely rare. I'd say probably 5 displays exist? So theoretically 5 of each card exists as a blank back.

Unfortunately I don't have any extra hunters, sorry.

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

Dan, the 54 Wilson Frank blank backs are actually more simple than you may think. They are simply hand cut from the display poster that didn't print anything on the backs of the cards. So every card is possible with a blank back. I've seen 1 or 2 blank backs so at least 1 display was cut up (not sure if it was cut in modern day or not) but for obvious reasons they're extremely rare. I'd say probably 5 displays exist? So theoretically 5 of each card exists as a blank back.

Very interesting, thanks for the pictures! Those really do appear to be true blank backs which I haven't seen before. The display poster that you mention was a uncut sheet that was pasted to a thicker piece of cardboard and used a standup. Many of these were cut up and they can be found if one is looking for them and patient. I have seen nothing to suggest that the sheets used for the display pieces are blank backed, but the point is moot as they are securely affixed to the cardboard.

Since this is the first I have heard of these blank backed cards/sheets I would say they are significantly rarer than the cards cut from the display and possibly unique.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Very interesting, thanks for the pictures! Those really do appear to be true blank backs which I haven't seen before. The display poster that you mention was a uncut sheet that was pasted to a thicker piece of cardboard and used a standup. Many of these were cut up and they can be found if one is looking for them and patient. I have seen nothing to suggest that the sheets used for the display pieces are blank backed, but the point is moot as they are securely affixed to the cardboard.

Since this is the first I have heard of these blank backed cards/sheets I would say they are significantly rarer than the cards cut from the display and possibly unique.

I'm not sure, I think there's a good chance the displays are blank back while the uncut sheets are regular back. I would assume the displays were early production pieces so it would make sense, especially how they are hand cut as well. But of course I can't prove that. They very well could be unique as you say and were scraps or defective saves of some kind.

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

I'm not sure, I think there's a good chance the displays are blank back while the uncut sheets are regular back. I would assume the displays were early production pieces so it would make sense, especially how they are hand cut as well. But of course I can't prove that. They very well could be unique as you say and were scraps or defective saves of some kind.

Sorry the pictures aren’t great, but it should give some examples of what I am basing my theories on.

The difference in thickness can be shown between Pafko cut from a display and the Campy a regular issued card. The top of the sheet in the display should show that it is pasted to the cardboard piece.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Sorry the pictures aren’t great, but it should give some examples of what I am basing my theories on.

The difference in thickness can be shown between Pafko cut from a display and the Campy a regular issued card. The top of the sheet in the display should show that it is pasted to the cardboard piece.

Would it be possible to separate the display card from the backing? Not saying to do that, just wondering if it's possible

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

Would it be possible to separate the display card from the backing? Not saying to do that, just wondering if it's possible

No, it is securely affixed and would destroy the back of the card. I can't even see a crack to start to run a knife through if I wanted to separate the card from the backing cardboard.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Do you have an example of a Wilson Franks blank back? I have never seen one in 20 years of collecting that issue.

If you find any 54 or 55 Hunters Wieners of any player I would be interested.

Thanks

Here are the photos I saved. Should've bought them all in hindsight.