CGC Cards Article on E104-1 Swift's Variety Shop

[ValKehl]

In post #17 of this thread, I lamented that SGC would not note "Wool's Bread" on the label of the W551 card of WaJo with this ad back I gave SGC to slab. An SCG rep advised me that SGC will no longer note "Wool's Bread" on its labels, despite having done so in the past. At Leon's urging, I contacted CGC, and their rep said that CGC will note "Wool's Bread" on its label.

Now, I have received further bad news from SGC. Very recently, I won this W575-1 card of Roger Peckinpaugh in an auction. It has a "Henry A. Johnson" advertising back stamp which is NOT noted on the SGC label, which I believe is a newer SGC label. In the past, I have seen numerous cards in SGC slabs for which both "W575-1" and "Henry A. Johnson" are noted on the labels; in fact, I have examples of such card of Sam Rice and Walter Johnson in my collection. I contacted SGC about this saying, "I'm hoping that the absence of the 'Henry A. Johnson' notation on the label of my Peckingpaugh card is merely a labeling oversight and that I may submit this card to SGC for label correction at the next Chantilly Show; is my hope correct?" I assume SGC will not have a problem with my posting SGC's response and our further communication, as follows:

"Hi Val, I just spoke with Grading to confirm, we are no longer referencing Henry A Johnson stamped backs on our labels."

"Hi Brent, I have never dealt with PSA, but I am aware that both PSA and SGC are owned by the same parent company. I sense that SGC is no longer referencing any stamped backs on its labels - right? Do you happen to know if PSA now has this same policy?"

"Hi Val, that is correct. We are no longer referencing stamped backs on the labels. I'm not sure if PSA is operating under the same policy. We are both under the Collectors umbrella but operate independently of one another. You can reach out to them if you wish."

So, the bottom line is, don't send your cards with ads stamped on the backs to SGC if you want to have the advertisers noted on the labels. Another back-stamp advertiser that SGC has noted on its labels in the past is Keating Candy, such as the WaJo card below. There are likely other back stamps that don't instantly come to mind.

[Leon]

At the end of the day I don't think SGC knows how to grade the stamped backs. They have made a lot of mistakes over the years. It's probably good they got out of grading them.

Originally Posted by ValKehl

In post #17 of this thread, I lamented that SGC would not note "Wool's Bread" on the label of the W551 card of WaJo with this ad back I gave SGC to slab. An SCG rep advised me that SGC will no longer note "Wool's Bread" on its labels, despite having done so in the past. At Leon's urging, I contacted CGC, and their rep said that CGC will note "Wool's Bread" on its label.

Now, I have received further bad news from SGC. Very recently, I won this W575-1 card of Roger Peckinpaugh in an auction. It has a "Henry A. Johnson" advertising back stamp which is NOT noted on the SGC label, which I believe is a newer SGC label. In the past, I have seen numerous cards in SGC slabs for which both "W575-1" and "Henry A. Johnson" are noted on the labels; in fact, I have examples of such card of Sam Rice and Walter Johnson in my collection. I contacted SGC about this saying, "I'm hoping that the absence of the 'Henry A. Johnson' notation on the label of my Peckingpaugh card is merely a labeling oversight and that I may submit this card to SGC for label correction at the next Chantilly Show; is my hope correct?" I assume SGC will not have a problem with my posting SGC's response and our further communication, as follows:

"Hi Val, I just spoke with Grading to confirm, we are no longer referencing Henry A Johnson stamped backs on our labels."

"Hi Brent, I have never dealt with PSA, but I am aware that both PSA and SGC are owned by the same parent company. I sense that SGC is no longer referencing any stamped backs on its labels - right? Do you happen to know if PSA now has this same policy?"

"Hi Val, that is correct. We are no longer referencing stamped backs on the labels. I'm not sure if PSA is operating under the same policy. We are both under the Collectors umbrella but operate independently of one another. You can reach out to them if you wish."

So, the bottom line is, don't send your cards with ads stamped on the backs to SGC if you want to have the advertisers noted on the labels. Another back-stamp advertiser that SGC has noted on its labels in the past is Keating Candy, such as the WaJo card below. There are likely other back stamps that don't instantly come to mind.