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Old 05-06-2025, 02:09 PM
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Oh boy…….but the look of it, the coloring doesn’t give you pause next to the PSA one?
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Old 05-06-2025, 02:15 PM
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Not at all, alot of the 15’s had a deep red back. I’ve seen/handled a lot of CJ’s that look like that. Plus the sellers photo doesn’t seem to be the best. I’d bet a $100 bill it’s genuine!
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Old 05-06-2025, 02:25 PM
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Ok….two against, one for…..when I questioned the seller, he did say the paper was thin not thick…..anyway…who knows.
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Old 05-06-2025, 03:47 PM
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Default still don't like it

left = subject of conversation
middle = another random PSA 1915 example
right = my 1914 example

Maybe their scanner settings are wacky, but:
1) The "BALL PLAYERS" mismatch
2) The red background mismatch
3) The white in the uniform and borders mismatch
4) The name/team mismatch

Maybe ask for another scan/pic?
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Old 05-06-2025, 04:04 PM
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Here are some new images from the seller….
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Old 05-06-2025, 04:27 PM
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Comparing the back of the subject vs my only 1915 CJ (not a Merkle), but look how bold and exact the Merkle printing is. Zero wear though the rest of the card is sooo dirty and worn. Still don't like it.
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Fake

But even real trimmed like that makes it worth $5

It’s not a 1914 HOF that would be worth something cut up…that’s only worth shipping fee

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Old 05-06-2025, 06:42 PM
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Not at all, alot of the 15’s had a deep red back. I’ve seen/handled a lot of CJ’s that look like that. Plus the sellers photo doesn’t seem to be the best. I’d bet a $100 bill it’s genuine!
Sounds like the seller is willing to take a $80 bill for it, so instead of betting you should be buying.

Brian (my vote is not real, and the back has a different color and looks like it has the texture of a paper towel)

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Sounds like the seller is willing to take a $80 bill for it, so instead of betting you should be buying.

Brian (my vote is not real, and the back has a different color and looks like it has the texture of a paper towel)
Respectfully, you clearly haven’t handled many raw cracker Jack cards.

My $100 statement was merely backing my confidence in its authenticity. I have no use for cut up CJ, let alone a 15.
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Respectfully, you clearly haven’t handled many raw cracker Jack cards.

My $100 statement was merely backing my confidence in its authenticity. I have no use for cut up CJ, let alone a 15.
I have 9 CJs, all raw, and that one for sale is absolutely, 100% fake.
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I have 9 CJs, all raw, and that one for sale is absolutely, 100% fake.

lol, sounds like you have 9 Dover reprint cjs.
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Old 05-06-2025, 07:33 PM
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lol, sounds like you have 9 Dover reprint cjs.
lol, sounds like you don't know Jack.
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Just a quick search I found this 15 in a Beckett holder. Although, this one is stained a lot, the texture is the same as the card in question.
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Old 05-12-2025, 08:03 PM
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Respectfully, you clearly haven’t handled many raw cracker Jack cards.

My $100 statement was merely backing my confidence in its authenticity. I have no use for cut up CJ, let alone a 15.


Looks like you suddenly discovered a use for a cut up Cracker Jack.

Looking at YOUR scans, I think it has a good chance to be graded as authentic. Congrats if that is the case, and for being able to spot a potentially legit one from the seller's scans. I believe the seller had his scanner set to reprint mode. The side by side comparison scans posted above certainly showcase the difference a poor scan can make.

Brian (not a Cracker Jack expert, but I have handled close to 50 raw ones, so not exactly a newbie)

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Old 05-12-2025, 10:21 PM
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I think it's good and would pass it as trimmed 'auth', not worth $70, but a tpg decision is a coin flip and won't prove anything here. The pin hole looks naturally aged. I would give you like $15 shipped for it.
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