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Old 05-05-2025, 03:23 PM
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Default Police report?

Can you file a police report? I’m not sure of what exactly would constitute wire or mail fraud, but maybe that’s applicable. Good luck!
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Old 05-05-2025, 03:27 PM
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Yes, very confused. And a few questions to ask also
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Old 05-05-2025, 03:30 PM
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It was a large deal. It did not take place on veriswap. (I didn't even know what veriswap was at the time) It was a private sale.

If you look at veriswap you can see the W515 Strip with Ruth, W512 Sheet with Cobb and other stuff that was part of the deal. He paid all but the final $1600 saying he would pay it when the cards were received. When he received the cards he tried renegotiating the entire deal and saying he wouldn't pay.

Not much I can do other than let others know about it. He has already been kicked off of just about every major facebook group.
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Old 05-05-2025, 08:00 PM
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Can you file a police report? I’m not sure of what exactly would constitute wire or mail fraud, but maybe that’s applicable. Good luck!
Generally no - shipping the cards after partial payment has already been received is basically an extension of credit for the remaining balance and therefore civil and not criminal when the party reneges (think of it as breaking a business contract).

Certain states may have a legal variance on such situations and more details of the OP’s deal would help too.
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Old 05-05-2025, 08:59 PM
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Legally, there is no point on filing a civil suit against somebody across the country for $1600 unless somebody knows something that I dont know about legal costs.
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Sounds like you have an issue with the buyer. Why not disclose the buyer so people here know to be careful if they ever come across him.
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Quite a few years ago I thought taking a hot check for a business, which I sold to someone and took as payment, was criminal. It wasn't. I am obviously not a lawyer. Live and learn stuff.

Outing the buyer is always good unless there are extenuating circumastances .

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Generally no - shipping the cards after partial payment has already been received is basically an extension of credit for the remaining balance and therefore civil and not criminal when the party reneges (think of it as breaking a business contract).

Certain states may have a legal variance on such situations and more details of the OP’s deal would help too.
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Old 05-14-2025, 11:19 AM
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Sounds like it is time for a little road trip! You probably won’t get your money, but you can at least make sure he has to spend it on new ankles.

That’s some tough luck,
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