SGC Going Away?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

I'm sure Travis has insider information like he does with other information from his billionaire friends.

Sarcasm aside, I don't like the idea. And if it ever was a thing (and I'm 99% sure it will never be) it probably wouldn't be in this decade lol.

There are huge numbers of PSA loyalists who dominate the set registry, I'd be very surprised if PSA did this just to appease a relatively small segment of SGC collectors.

[JollyElm]

These were my notes regarding CSG from a show a while back...

6. Red Headed Step-Grader
I didn’t run into too many CSG holders, but when I did, their size disparity had them situated unceremoniously in the backs of the boxes of slabs, almost entirely ignored. (Warning! Not a scientific assessment...) You get the general feeling that buyers/sellers don’t yet hold the company in high esteem (meaning, of course, as moneymakers), and I didn’t notice anyone buying the slabs, especially since dealers usually had ‘PSA-worthy prices’ attached to them. That just won’t fly at this point in time.

[OhioLawyerF5]

There was a time in the not-to-distant past when Beckett was the #1 overall grader, and PSA was #2. Thinks can change very quickly.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

There was a time in the not-to-distant past when Beckett was the #1 overall grader, and PSA was #2. Thinks can change very quickly.

I don't buy many graded cards but I see plenty of them at shows, and I don't really remember ever seeing that many cards graded by Beckett compared to PSA. When was Beckett the #1 overall grader?

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I don't buy many graded cards but I see plenty of them at shows, and I don't really remember ever seeing that many cards graded by Beckett compared to PSA. When was Beckett the #1 overall grader?

I can't think of a time where they completely overtook PSA in marketshare, but I would say that from around 2011-2019 they were arguably the most popular for Ultra-Modern baseball cards. Specifically this was there era where Bowman Chrome was considered the key release and BGS 9.5/10 was the key grade.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

I can't think of a time where they completely overtook PSA in marketshare, but I would say that from around 2011-2019 they were arguably the most popular for Ultra-Modern baseball cards. Specifically this was there era where Bowman Chrome was considered the key release and BGS 9.5/10 was the key grade.

I was never interested in Ultra-Modern or Bowman Chrome so if that was where a lot of Beckett grading was happening it would explain why I never noticed any of it. Thanks.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I don't buy many graded cards but I see plenty of them at shows, and I don't really remember ever seeing that many cards graded by Beckett compared to PSA. When was Beckett the #1 overall grader?

I cannot think of a time when PSA was not number 1 and SGC was not number 2 in the grading space.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

I can't think of a time where they completely overtook PSA in marketshare, but I would say that from around 2011-2019 they were arguably the most popular for Ultra-Modern baseball cards. Specifically this was there era where Bowman Chrome was considered the key release and BGS 9.5/10 was the key grade.

This is correct. BGS almost universally outsold PSA in the 2010s.

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I cannot think of a time when PSA was not number 1 and SGC was not number 2 in the grading space.

SGC didn't become the #2 grader overall until the last couple of years. Maybe if you only look at pre-war, then sure, SGC has been #2 for about 20 years. That's because Beckett tried BVG and it flopped. But overall, when you include modern cards, SGC was never even close to BGS during the 2000s and 2010s. That includes both sale prices, and marketshare. It was post-covid when SGC finally overtook BGS in total cards graded per month.

[Directly]

Received a email SGC received my order, Thank You--I have cards sent to PSA early March, still in Research, ID.==friend of mine loss 20,000 on new junk shiny cards due turnaround time--I have sold new junk cards for thousands so PSA cards do sell for substantially more $$$.--a lot of grading company I have never heard of --so is a graded 10 a 10 --??

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

This is correct. BGS almost universally outsold PSA in the 2010s.



SGC didn't become the #2 grader overall until the last couple of years. Maybe if you only look at pre-war, then sure, SGC has been #2 for about 20 years. That's because Beckett tried BVG and it flopped. But overall, when you include modern cards, SGC was never even close to BGS during the 2000s and 2010s. That includes both sale prices, and marketshare. It was post-covid when SGC finally overtook BGS in total cards graded per month.

You can still observe this if you look at cards like Jeter and Trout RCs, lots of Beckett graded examples still in the marketplace. The subgrades were very popular for a while. No longer. I don't know what happened to them, whether it was just PSA's better marketing that overtook them, they had internal issues, or both.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

This is correct. BGS almost universally outsold PSA in the 2010s.



SGC didn't become the #2 grader overall until the last couple of years. Maybe if you only look at pre-war, then sure, SGC has been #2 for about 20 years. That's because Beckett tried BVG and it flopped. But overall, when you include modern cards, SGC was never even close to BGS during the 2000s and 2010s. That includes both sale prices, and marketshare. It was post-covid when SGC finally overtook BGS in total cards graded per month.

Thanks for the explanation. I have never paid any attention to modern or ultramodern issues so I only noticed SGC and PSA slabbed cards and I avoided vintage Beckett graded material due to their grading sheet cut cards.