SGC Going Away?

[toledo_mudhen]

and my initial foray into the "alternative" universe.......

I don't Hate It

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

and my initial foray into the "alternative" universe.......

I don't Hate It

Nice to see they ditched the inner sleeve. This is a much better presentation. Hope they eventually thrive.

[JollyElm]

No one knows what's going to happen right now, but we need to remember that "the business of business is business."

Whatever helps PSA's bottom line the most will ultimately be the biggest factor in their decision-making.

[Snowman]

Collectors is still investing money into the SGC brand. They are making improvements on the backend database and hiring more graders while the vacuous halfwits on YouTube and Blowhard sound their false alarms.

Collectors will continue to keep SGC around as long as the hobby continues to demand their services. Why? Because they'd be stupid not to. They know that a significant percentage of loyal SGC customers would take their business to CGC, BVG, or MBA instead, and that could open the door for someone like Fanatics to scoop them up and start chipping away at the PSA market share. A lot of these customers grade with SGC because they don't like PSA, and them shutting down SGC isn't going to change that. Keeping SGC in play gives PSA a moat. And they can't just steal all their graders without creating a new PSA location in Florida because most of those guys aren't going to move across the country so they can grade cards in LA or New Jersey.

As long as SGC continues to thrive (and they very much are - they even had to increase their turnaround times recently because they're swamped), Collectors will keep keep them open because their added value as an alternative grading option far exceeds the value that they would get from stealing their graders and offering crossover specials.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Collectors is still investing money into the SGC brand. They are making improvements on the backend database and hiring more graders while the vacuous halfwits on YouTube and Blowhard sound their false alarms.

Collectors will continue to keep SGC around as long as the hobby continues to demand their services. Why? Because they'd be stupid not to. They know that a significant percentage of loyal SGC customers would take their business to CGC, BVG, or MBA instead, and that could open the door for someone like Fanatics to scoop them up and start chipping away at the PSA market share. A lot of these customers grade with SGC because they don't like PSA, and them shutting down SGC isn't going to change that. Keeping SGC in play gives PSA a moat. And they can't just steal all their graders without creating a new PSA location in Florida because most of those guys aren't going to move across the country so they can grade cards in LA or New Jersey.

As long as SGC continues to thrive (and they very much are - they even had to increase their turnaround times recently because they're swamped), Collectors will keep keep them open because their added value as an alternative grading option far exceeds the value that they would get from stealing their graders and offering crossover specials.

Agreed 110%

[GeoPoto]

I will be surprised if PSA keeps SGC going indefinitely. Surely, they are working towards merging whatever management, administration, logistics, grading, and slabbing functions aren't already merged. That would be Aquisitions 101. The tipping point will arrive when the IT department is ready to add SGC-graded cards to the registry. Operating two businesses that do essentially the same thing can't make sense. SGC-style slabs may become an option to appease tuxedo aficionados, but grading standards, customer service, and anything else users care about will become one and the same, if they haven't already.

[notfast]

Seems like a lot of people commenting would have their heads explode if they knew what brands nestle, proctor and gamble and Johnson and Johnson owned.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

I will be surprised if PSA keeps SGC going indefinitely. Surely, they are working towards merging whatever management, administration, logistics, grading, and slabbing functions aren't already merged. That would be Aquisitions 101. The tipping point will arrive when the IT department is ready to add SGC-graded cards to the registry. Operating two businesses that do essentially the same thing can't make sense. SGC-style slabs may become an option to appease tuxedo aficionados, but grading standards, customer service, and anything else users care about will become one and the same, if they haven't already.

PSA doesn't own SGC. Collectors owns PSA and SGC, two separate companies. This wasn't a merger. So "Aquisitions 101" [sic] doesn't apply. And as several have pointed out in this thread, it would make no sense for Collectors to kill one of their brands.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by GeoPoto

I will be surprised if PSA keeps SGC going indefinitely. Surely, they are working towards merging whatever management, administration, logistics, grading, and slabbing functions aren't already merged. That would be Aquisitions 101. The tipping point will arrive when the IT department is ready to add SGC-graded cards to the registry. Operating two businesses that do essentially the same thing can't make sense. SGC-style slabs may become an option to appease tuxedo aficionados, but grading standards, customer service, and anything else users care about will become one and the same, if they haven't already.

It makes sense and has for Most car companies.
Ford/Lincoln/Mecury
Chrysler/Plymouth/Dodge .... /Jeep/AMC
GM with many brands.

Raleigh Bicycled bought up most large British brands and used them eventually to circumvent exclusive territories
So one city might have Raleigh/Rudge/Humber/Robin Hood/and many more.

A lot of companies also sell their products to another big company labeled as another brand but they're the same product.

As long as it's profitable, I doubt SGC is going anywhere. It probably will change for the better in some ways worse in others.

I still think they're missing out by not doing team color gaskets. Or at least a couple options for some sets that might not look as good with the black gasket like 71 Topps or 1950 Drakes. (I'm sort of odd in thinking I like the SGC holder for prewar, but the PSA holder for newer cards. )

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Collectors is still investing money into the SGC brand. They are making improvements on the backend database and hiring more graders while the vacuous halfwits on YouTube and Blowhard sound their false alarms.

Collectors will continue to keep SGC around as long as the hobby continues to demand their services. Why? Because they'd be stupid not to. They know that a significant percentage of loyal SGC customers would take their business to CGC, BVG, or MBA instead, and that could open the door for someone like Fanatics to scoop them up and start chipping away at the PSA market share. A lot of these customers grade with SGC because they don't like PSA, and them shutting down SGC isn't going to change that. Keeping SGC in play gives PSA a moat. And they can't just steal all their graders without creating a new PSA location in Florida because most of those guys aren't going to move across the country so they can grade cards in LA or New Jersey.

As long as SGC continues to thrive (and they very much are - they even had to increase their turnaround times recently because they're swamped), Collectors will keep keep them open because their added value as an alternative grading option far exceeds the value that they would get from stealing their graders and offering crossover specials.

Hard to disagree with any of this.

[edhans]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Collectors is still investing money into the SGC brand. They are making improvements on the backend database and hiring more graders while the vacuous halfwits on YouTube and Blowhard sound their false alarms.

Collectors will continue to keep SGC around as long as the hobby continues to demand their services. Why? Because they'd be stupid not to. They know that a significant percentage of loyal SGC customers would take their business to CGC, BVG, or MBA instead, and that could open the door for someone like Fanatics to scoop them up and start chipping away at the PSA market share. A lot of these customers grade with SGC because they don't like PSA, and them shutting down SGC isn't going to change that. Keeping SGC in play gives PSA a moat. And they can't just steal all their graders without creating a new PSA location in Florida because most of those guys aren't going to move across the country so they can grade cards in LA or New Jersey.

As long as SGC continues to thrive (and they very much are - they even had to increase their turnaround times recently because they're swamped), Collectors will keep keep them open because their added value as an alternative grading option far exceeds the value that they would get from stealing their graders and offering crossover specials.

Well said and I hope you're right.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by edhans

Well said and I hope you're right.

Yup
Agreed

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[raulus]

I suspect the goons who start these rumors do it primarily because of the delicious reactions they elicit.

So congrats to all of us for not feeding the trolls.