New lawsuit accuses PWCC of massive shill bidding

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jingram058

Yet another reason for the inflation that has prevailed in "the hobby". Shenanigans like this.

So Alt alleges:
49. In addition, the fraudulent conduct by PWCC and the individuals with
whom it was complicit drove up comparable prices across the broader trading card market. Most
buyers and sellers (including Alt) relied on recent “comps” to determine trading card values.
During the relevant timeframe, PWCC was one of the biggest players in the auction space, and
PWCC comps were anchoring prices, influencing expectations, and driving market momentum.
Alt estimates that PWCC’s fraudulent conduct inflated market-wide trading card prices by over
40 percent.

[ClementeFanOh]

"Presented without comment"- except for the FIVE comments after it. Some
people just can't help themselves...

Trent King

net54- the place where some people think that verbosity equates to quality

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

"Presented without comment"- except for the FIVE comments after it. Some
people just can't help themselves...

Trent King

net54- the place where some people think that verbosity equates to quality

SMH. A significant lawsuit with serious and far reaching accusations against a company we all know and most have dealt with, and this is your focus?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

SMH. A significant lawsuit with serious and far reaching accusations against a company we all know and most have dealt with, and this is your focus?

Dammit, if you proclaim to not have a comment, then you are disbarred from commenting in perpetuity. Get it straight, man!

I guess we could argue that there should at least be a minimum moratorium on commenting after presenting without comment. But maybe we need some site guidelines on the statute of limitations for anyone who declines to comment.

Or maybe you just need to reserve the right to comment in a later post, which may or may not follow within a timeframe at your discretion?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Dammit, if you proclaim to not have a comment, then you are disbarred from commenting in perpetuity. Get it straight, man!

I guess we could argue that there should at least be a minimum moratorium on commenting after presenting without comment. But maybe we need some site guidelines on the statute of limitations for anyone who declines to comment.

Or maybe you just need to reserve the right to comment in a later post, which may or may not follow within a timeframe at your discretion?

LOL. The funny thing is 99 percent of the several posts were just quoting from the Complaint which I was naive enough to think might actually be informative and interesting.

[swarmee]

Welcome back to the buyer's group. Although this far after the occurrences/ownership changes, just looks like sour grapes.

The "buyer's group" was a known thing a few years back, and who doesn't remember when the PSA fanboy bigwig paid $30K for the Bowman Musial PSA 10 (also altered) after discussing his max bid with Brent before the auction ending.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Welcome back to the buyer's group. Although this far after the occurrences/ownership changes, just looks like sour grapes.

The "buyer's group" was a known thing a few years back, and who doesn't remember when the PSA fanboy bigwig paid $30K for the Bowman Musial PSA 10 (also altered) after discussing his max bid with Brent before the auction ending.

If memory serves that guy came right back for a 10 Fisk, or something like it. Was not dissuaded a bit.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by raulus

Dammit, if you proclaim to not have a comment, then you are disbarred from commenting in perpetuity. Get it straight, man!

I guess we could argue that there should at least be a minimum moratorium on commenting after presenting without comment. But maybe we need some site guidelines on the statute of limitations for anyone who declines to comment.

Or maybe you just need to reserve the right to comment in a later post, which may or may not follow within a timeframe at your discretion?

Can we at least acknowledge that it’s mildly amusing to see the presented without comment bit when we know there will be several comments to follow?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Can we at least acknowledge that it’s mildly amusing to see the presented without comment bit when we know there will be several comments to follow?

It is, I grant you, mildly amusing

But I suppose we must grant that chat boards are prone to such.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

But I didn't see them as comments. "Presented without comment," to me, means without any opinions. His subsequent posts were merely additional information, not "comments" in the sense it was intended.

[edhans]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

But I didn't see them as comments. "Presented without comment," to me, means without any opinions. His subsequent posts were merely additional information, not "comments" in the sense it was intended.

+1.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

But I didn't see them as comments. "Presented without comment," to me, means without any opinions. His subsequent posts were merely additional information, not "comments" in the sense it was intended.

I should make a comment with regard to your comment pertaining to Peter's comment, which was presented without comment and then followed up by comments that weren't really comments.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

SMH. A significant lawsuit with serious and far reaching accusations against a company we all know and most have dealt with, and this is your focus?

When you are an angry fella and hate the world what else could you possibly expect?

[bcbgcbrcb]

Of course, this is the only place where this type of conduct went on during 2021, right?