NFL Draft

[bk400]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I think they were worried the Browns might take him at the top of the 2nd round, instead of Sanders. Dart had moved past Sanders on most draft boards I saw.

Sanders apparently interviewed horribly with everybody, including Tomlin I guess, who had somehow convinced everybody that HE was going to take Sanders...but didn't.

It's the only thing that makes sense, since the Browns were they only team drafting between #25 and their next pick, that even remotely needed a QB.

QB purgatory for at least another year, before we'll see if Dart's going to pan out.

D-Line should be amazing, if this group stays healthy though.

+1. I think football is fundamentally won by the lines, and Giants should have one of the best D-Lines next year. I wish they could figure out the offensive line. I can't remember the last time the Giants had a serviceable offensive line.

[D. Bergin]

Jeez, has a player, particularly a QB, ever fallen so far past where they were expected to go between the end of the college season and the day of the draft, without suffering a major injury or committing a serious crime?

Browns ended up taking a QB ESPN had ranked 10th at his position and 217th Overall, instead of taking Sanders.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Jeez, has a player, particularly a QB, ever fallen so far past where they were expected to go between the end of the college season and the day of the draft, without suffering a major injury or committing a serious crime?

Browns ended up taking a QB ESPN had ranked 10th at his position and 217th Overall, instead of taking Sanders.

Yeah, I wonder if the NFL teams actually think he's not good enough talent-wise or if they just don't want to deal with Neon Deion and the media circus that will surround him.

I get the sense that NFL team owners are more conservative generally than those in say the MLB and the NBA.

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I'm not saying he's Liangelo Ball but he was hyped into oblivion by his own father. This is all Deion's fault. Some people can never let their son be an individual. If he was anyone else he'd be happy to be selected at all. But because he has a circus around him he's seen as a failure now because he didn't go in the first round. Why would a father want to hang something like that around their own son's neck?

If my son called me up and said "Dad, I just got drafted in the fourth found," my first word to him would be congratulations. I'm not sure that word will be the first one on Deion's mind.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by packs

I'm not saying he's Liangelo Ball but he was hyped into oblivion by his own father. This is all Deion's fault. Some people can never let their son be an individual. If he was anyone else he'd be happy to be selected at all. But because he has a circus around him he's seen as a failure now because he didn't go in the first round. Why would a father want to hang something like that around their own son's neck?

If my son called me up and said "Dad, I just got drafted in the fourth found," my first words to him would be congratulations. I'm not sure that word will be the first one on Deion's mind.

Totally agree. In another sign of the times, I was reading in the NY Post that Abdul Carter, who has played zero snaps in the NFL, asked Lawrence Taylor -- arguably the greatest player in NFL history -- to allow his retired 56 jersey number to be reissued to Carter. Good on LT for saying no. I hope Abdul Carter kicks ass in the league, but come on man.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by bk400

Totally agree. In another sign of the times, I was reading in the NY Post that Abdul Carter, who has played zero snaps in the NFL, asked Lawrence Taylor -- arguably the greatest player in NFL history -- to allow his retired 56 jersey number to be reissued to Carter. Good on LT for saying no. I hope Abdul Carter kicks ass in the league, but come on man.

Haha, I saw that.

To his credit, he took it pretty well when LT said no.

LT's not the type of guy anybody should take life advice from, but he had a point when he said Carter should pick his own number to try and immortalize and make his own.

Also, I don't think Carter was really serious to begin with. It's not like he wore #56 in college. I think it was actually more of a tribute to the history of the Giants and LT to begin with. A way to acknowledge the past.

I don't think the kids of today are as oblivious of the past as we think they are.

[D. Bergin]

This is really weird. Teams that they thought were actively interested in Sanders in the 1st round, are avoiding him, even in the later rounds.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by packs

I'm not saying he's Liangelo Ball but he was hyped into oblivion by his own father. This is all Deion's fault. Some people can never let their son be an individual. If he was anyone else he'd be happy to be selected at all. But because he has a circus around him he's seen as a failure now because he didn't go in the first round. Why would a father want to hang something like that around their own son's neck?

If my son called me up and said "Dad, I just got drafted in the fourth found," my first words to him would be congratulations. I'm not sure that word will be the first one on Deion's mind.

The kid did put up damn good stats at Colorado. What that actually means at the next level, I don't know.

These kids who throw for a million yards in college rarely become great NFL QB's....meanwhile, the Tom Brady's, Brett Favre's and Josh Allen's of the World, are completely underwhelming in College and turn into absolute superstars somehow.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by bk400

Yeah, I wonder if the NFL teams actually think he's not good enough talent-wise or if they just don't want to deal with Neon Deion and the media circus that will surround him.

I get the sense that NFL team owners are more conservative generally than those in say the MLB and the NBA.

I think they may be getting Johnny Manziel flashbacks from him.

Different styles of play, but great college players in the right system, with a lack of maturity and preparation that doesn't bode well for the next level.

Of course, Manziel also had several issues off the field that impacted his play at the next level, that I don't think Sanders has, or at least I'm not aware of them, if they exist.

Sanders is basically a pocket QB who gets sacked a lot. If he doesn't learn to read his progressions and get the ball out faster, he's going to get pancaked at the next level, unless he inherits a lights out Offensive line right away.

Short term, Sanders is going to make a lot less money on his rookie contract, then he thought he was going to make, but in the long run, maybe it's the best thing that could happen to him. Pressure will be off him to be great right away, and maybe he can learn to be in a system where his father isn't his guardian angel and hype man.

There is still the possibility he becomes an absolute steal for whatever team finally drafts him.