Show...me...your print variations!

[savedfrommyspokes]

Here is another color shift oddity with a green bottomed 1963 Topps card

[Kevvyg1026]

I have read with interest some of the dialogue/speculations about the printing of the 54 Topps, but I hadn't seen this error/variation posted. Here is one scan with Dave Philley having a slit edge mark, and another with a wrong back of Tom Qualters.

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[Kevvyg1026]

I have read with interest some of the dialogue/speculations about the printing of the 54 Topps, but I hadn't seen this error/variation posted. Here is one scan with Dave Philley having a slit edge mark, and another with a wrong back of Tom Qualters.

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[wpeters]

I picked up a lot of 1972 Topps and these were some of the more egregious miscuts.

[philliesfan]

Nice miscuts Walt!

[swarmee]

1954 Topps - [Base] #208 - Grady Hatton
Courtesy of COMC.com

Recurring print defect - line through the O,N of Hatton.

[ALR-bishop]

Good one John

[Elberson]

1964 topps 102 checklist can be found with and without dot in number box and found a couple of tri colors backs

[spokering]

I am relatively new to sports card collecting and this is my first post to the forum, so please forgive me for my lack of knowledge or posting etiquette. For obscure reasons, I became interested in Bobby Thomson's "Shot Heard Around the World" and putting together the Giant's boxscore from that game. While searching for 1951 Bowman NY Giants, I came across this Hank Sauer (I knew he was a Giant at some point but not in 1951) on Ebay. I quickly examined it and realized wrong team, but something caught my eye. I thought I was looking at a refractor. Closer examination reveals the printing defect which gives an interesting appearance of his bat. It seems the printing defect predominately affects the top half of the card although there seems to be something off throughout. I thought by sending it for grading to PSA, they might give me some clues to other similar defects. I did not know it at the time, but PSA has stopped providing modifiers such as PD and only gives a numeral score that incorporates the old modifiers which is why I think the card only scored a "4" (not important). It turns out of all the 257 Hank Sauer cards ever graded, only one received a modifier in the past (according to PSA customer support, they don't track the breakdown of modifers). I was hoping the group could give further thoughts about this particular printing defect. In my research, I could not find evidence of similar ones in the 1951 Bowman series. Thanks

[John1941]

Originally Posted by spokering

I am relatively new to sports card collecting and this is my first post to the forum, so please forgive me for my lack of knowledge or posting etiquette. For obscure reasons, I became interested in Bobby Thomson's "Shot Heard Around the World" and putting together the Giant's boxscore from that game. While searching for 1951 Bowman NY Giants, I came across this Hank Sauer (I knew he was a Giant at some point but not in 1951) on Ebay. I quickly examined it and realized wrong team, but something caught my eye. I thought I was looking at a refractor. Closer examination reveals the printing defect which gives an interesting appearance of his bat. It seems the printing defect predominately affects the top half of the card although there seems to be something off throughout. I thought by sending it for grading to PSA, they might give me some clues to other similar defects. I did not know it at the time, but PSA has stopped providing modifiers such as PD and only gives a numeral score that incorporates the old modifiers which is why I think the card only scored a "4" (not important). It turns out of all the 257 Hank Sauer cards ever graded, only one received a modifier in the past (according to PSA customer support, they don't track the breakdown of modifers). I was hoping the group could give further thoughts about this particular printing defect. In my research, I could not find evidence of similar ones in the 1951 Bowman series. Thanks

Hi Mike,

Welcome.

What you have there is a card with print misregistration, which is considered to be neither a print defect nor a variation. Cards like that don't typically receive any premium but they can be kind of cool.

My guess is that the card received a 4 not because PSA applied any modifier to it but because lately grading companies have become very harsh in grading vintage.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by spokering

I am relatively new to sports card collecting and this is my first post to the forum, so please forgive me for my lack of knowledge or posting etiquette. For obscure reasons, I became interested in Bobby Thomson's "Shot Heard Around the World" and putting together the Giant's boxscore from that game. While searching for 1951 Bowman NY Giants, I came across this Hank Sauer (I knew he was a Giant at some point but not in 1951) on Ebay. I quickly examined it and realized wrong team, but something caught my eye. I thought I was looking at a refractor. Closer examination reveals the printing defect which gives an interesting appearance of his bat. It seems the printing defect predominately affects the top half of the card although there seems to be something off throughout. I thought by sending it for grading to PSA, they might give me some clues to other similar defects. I did not know it at the time, but PSA has stopped providing modifiers such as PD and only gives a numeral score that incorporates the old modifiers which is why I think the card only scored a "4" (not important). It turns out of all the 257 Hank Sauer cards ever graded, only one received a modifier in the past (according to PSA customer support, they don't track the breakdown of modifers). I was hoping the group could give further thoughts about this particular printing defect. In my research, I could not find evidence of similar ones in the 1951 Bowman series. Thanks

Originally Posted by John1941

Hi Mike,

Welcome.

What you have there is a card with print misregistration, which is considered to be neither a print defect nor a variation. Cards like that don't typically receive any premium but they can be kind of cool.

My guess is that the card received a 4 not because PSA applied any modifier to it but because lately grading companies have become very harsh in grading vintage.

I agree with John with it being a print offset and not any kind of variation. The ones with a small offset like yours typically bring a little less money that a card with good print registration. Now if the print offset was off 3 times as much or more they do command a premium from us oddball collectors. The big print offset cards are among my favorite.

[spokering]

Thanks John and Ben for your insights. I didn't suspect it was worth a premium but thought the print defect/offset gave it a somewhat unique effect, especially how it impacted the bat.

[butchie_t]

I actually came across three 69 variation cards I thought I would never find. I am very happy to add these to my ever decreasing list of 69 variations. The Gosger, Shepard, and Quilici I do not believe have been added to this thread. Others listed, pretty sure they have.

Jim Gosger Blue Band on Bat
Larry Shepard Blue Streak
Frank Quilici Splotchy red band on back of card.

The other ones:

Gaylord Perry White Letter Wide number obscure on back
Gaylord Perry Yellow Letter Thin number obscure on back
Jimmie Hall Pink Top Right part of card
Ken Suarez Partial Last Name
And a couple of the Ray Washburn variations.

Cheers,

Butch