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Old 01-22-2025, 06:00 PM
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May have to look for the Terwilliger logo. On of mine has a flattened area at top of logo rather that rounded. Are there some with gaps ?
Here what I believe are the 3 different versions

1) Fully rounded, normal and proper logo

2) Flat top logo, top flattened and squished, but thinly connected.

3) Full gap, similar to 2 but the line is fully broken and cut off even more. The top black line is 'bent down'.

Combined with the pirates logo and stocks, there are a lot of total versions of Terwilliger.
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Old 01-27-2025, 05:12 PM
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1952 Topps Bobby Shantz #219 comes with, beneath the bottom black border roughly below the first "B" in his first name:

1) Light pink blotch

2) Darker magenta/red spot

3) Cleanly printed
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Those are good ones Greg. I think I posted mine in the Topps 1952 Gallery thread. There is a 59 Grammas card with a something similar blob, transition card and clean
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Those are good ones Greg. I think I posted mine in the Topps 1952 Gallery thread. There is a 59 Grammas card with a something similar blob, transition card and clean
It's getting difficult for my little brain to remember what's been posted here before now that we have so many on the post-war board somewhere . Thankfully I have all of the 59 Grammas', but I only have 1 Shantz. I don't think I'm finishing a 52 Topps pedantic master any time soon...
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Old 01-31-2025, 05:42 PM
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1964 Topps Giants #10 Jim Bunning comes with or without this white line running from his arm to the border, in the upper right of the picture. Neither version seems very difficult and there's plenty of examples of each on eBay, scanning over them.

This one also has a white line running from his hand to his cap, but not all with the dash have this. I think 3 total versions.
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Nope....I refuse to get involved with variants in that set .

But I really like the set

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Nope....I refuse to get involved with variants in that set .

But I really like the set
There aren’t many, I think. The temptation must be there!
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Old 02-02-2025, 12:28 PM
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Fun with 3rd 65 set…..

Would you guys consider this a printing error or one off?
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Fun with 3rd 65 set…….

Would you guys consider this a printing error or one off?
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Fun with 3rd 65 set…….

Would you guys consider this a printing error or one off?
They are print errors.
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But neat ones
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Old 02-04-2025, 06:21 AM
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Fun with 3rd 65 set…….

Would you guys consider this a printing error or one off?
Echoing Ben, print error.
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Another "near" print error. Definitely some blue pixels visible in the "a". Likely as close as I will ever get to the real variation.
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Some partial border-less 63s, with some near "black-lessing".
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Larry/Cliff---are these 63 missing borders related at all to the group Cliff identified earlier for Sadowski/Bell/St Louis Team/Herbert/Mele/Klimclock/McCormick/Cook ?

Here is my Herrer but I like the one on left better
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Larry/Cliff---are these 63 missing borders related at all to the group Cliff identified earlier for Sadowski/Bell/St Louis Team/Herbert/Mele/Klimclock/McCormick/Cook ?
They have me perplexed. They are from the 3rd Series and are all over the sheet, I don't see any pattern as to why they are like that. When I saw them I figured they were all on the edge of the sheet like the ones from the 1963 1st Series and 7th Series but they aren't.
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They have me perplexed. They are from the 3rd Series and are all over the sheet, I don't see any pattern as to why they are like that. When I saw them I figured they were all on the edge of the sheet like the ones from the 1963 1st Series and 7th Series but they aren't.
I had looked at the sheet you posted previously and the only adjoining cards in my group were the 3 yellow cards....however, they had missing ink all on the same left edge. It would have made more sense if the adjoining cards were borderless on their shared edges (IE one left edge, the other the right edge).

My guess is that there are cards from the 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th series that have similar flaws. They just have not been shared yet.
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Not the most exciting, but 1967 Topps #383 Ken Henderson comes with or without the small green splotch on his neck.
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1970 Topps #19 Johnny Boccabella comes with or without this small blue extension from the biography box, above the card number.

These are both the white stock reverses.
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If this one has been mentioned before I don't remember it. While searching 1957 5th Series cards for a different reason I ran across multiples of these so it is recurring and not a one time print freak.
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Cliff---I actually got one of these Lynch variants after Mike Cady posted one that I think he got from Thomas ( sliphorn) on his variations site. I also saw there and picked up another one with an incomplete back circle, Arroya 394, but unlike Lynch the side stats seem unaffected. Scans of both on site below

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1975 Topps - [Base] #5 - '74 Highlights - Nolan Ryan
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Recurring fisheye print defect under the 300.
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Just started working on my 1969 topps set and found 600 Tony oliva with and without red “cut line” on bottom
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Greg posted a 70 Boccabella 19 back above. Here is a front variant, one of many pinkish 70 variants
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1951 Bowman - [Base] #307 - Walt Masterson
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1951 Bowman - [Base] #307 - Walt Masterson
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Left border is missing near shoulder. Recurring print defect. Both copies also have the same print defect in the line next to his mouth.
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Good one John, and not too scarce
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1964 Topps #135 Johnny Callison can be found with or without a light purple blotch over Callison's nose. The defect is slightly rare; it looks to me like four of the 36 copies of the card currently for sale on COMC have it.
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1969 topps 380 Stan bahnsen can be found with and without black line at bottom
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Ok I was having fun looking through my new set and noticed some defects

121 grzenda can be found w/wo partial line top right
265 Cardenas can be found w/wo partial line top left
369 skinner can be found w/wo full line top
385 cepeda can be found w/wo scratch line shoulder
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The Cepeda with the line seems to be the “common” version
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Ok one more 1969 Francois 398 can be found w/w/o black line at bottom
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Ok I was having fun looking through my new set and noticed some defects

121 grzenda can be found w/wo partial line top right
265 Cardenas can be found w/wo partial line top left
369 skinner can be found w/wo full line top
385 cepeda can be found w/wo scratch line shoulder
I think that the lines at the top of the cards mentioned indicate that those cards were at them top of a slit.

Grzenda is in C9 of the 2nd series slit headed by Lindy Mcdaniel.

Cardenas is in C9 of the 3rd series slit headed by Mike Kekich

Skinner is in C3 of the 4th series slit headed by Ray Culp
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Default 1962 #150 Kaline

I bought a green tine version because of the red paint on it. I noticed, upon scanning that the green tint versions have his first name and team farther to the left. compared to his last name. Very ticky tacky, but reality.
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Default 1969 series 4 cards with lines

Here is a slit from series 4. If you examine it closely, you will see a line separating the Francona row from the Culp row.

Cards in the Francona row can be found with the line at the bottom while cards from Culp row can be found with the line at the top.



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Ok one more 1969 topps Jim French 199 can be found w/wo black line on back of card
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77 Ray Burris with his name in yellow instead of the normal red

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Not variations but a couple of errors from my friends collection that I'm going through

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I found this at a card show. I acknowledge that it is pretty ticky tacky, but a recurring event. In the top right version, there is a yellow slash to the top left by "Bob". There is also a smaller one below that. I have seen at least five on eBay and two on COMC. I bought one off COMC that had a longer slash. Just an FYI.
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While searching 1960 Topps 3rd Series cards for miscuts on eBay I ran across this Rip Repulski with the clipped K for a few dollars and grabbed it.
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That is a tough one Cliff. I looked for a long time. Saw a reference to it in some hobby publication
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1957 Topps - [Base] #97 - New York Yankees Team
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Recurring print defect on right side of the image border.
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Darn John, did you have to find it on a Damn Yankees team card ?
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I noticed on these copies of Ron Fairly cards that the lower left border on one copy is yellow while the lower left border on the other copy is blue. The Marty Keough card adjoins at the bottom of the Fairly card and predictably also has yellow/blue on the corresponding lower right edges.

Each copy appears on one edge of their respective slit. In the images of the sheets, there appears to be a white border around the edges, so where do the blue and yellow colors on the edges come from?
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a color shift during printing
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A color shift from the adjacent slit?

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1963 Topps cards that were printed on the left edge or the right edge will have different colors if they are miscut, for whatever reason. Dean's Cards has them listed as variations which I think is ridiculous. https://www.deanscards.com/search?s=...opps+fornieles
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1963 Topps cards that were printed on the left edge or the right edge will have different colors if they are miscut, for whatever reason. Dean's Cards has them listed as variations which I think is ridiculous. https://www.deanscards.com/search?s=...opps+fornieles
One of Dean's Fairly cards is centered 52/48 and still had a sliver of color on the side edge.

I am only seeing Dean show the variations on the four green cards bottomed cards.

With the two cards on the opposite end of the row from the Fairly and Keough cards also having yellow and blue edges would seem to rule out a color shift from the opposing slit. However, a yellow/blue color shift on each of the green rows as Kevin indicated would make the most sense.

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Here is another color shift oddity with a green bottomed 1963 Topps card
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