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Old 04-04-2025, 01:02 PM
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I said cloud. He had his best seasons with Bonds. May have tinted perspectives and kept him out.
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Old 04-04-2025, 02:25 PM
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Kent was very unpopular with teammates and media if memory serves. I don't think he was under any PED cloud.
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I don't have a comprehensive list, but some candidates for all underrated in my mind would include Lou Whitaker, Ken Boyer, and Albert Belle.
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Kent was very unpopular with teammates and media if memory serves. I don't think he was under any PED cloud.
Yeah, its hard to believe that someone could be as unpopular as Barry Bonds, but Kent game him a run for his money in the disliked department.

Agreed that Kent's not getting in does not have to do w/ roids.

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I don't have a comprehensive list, but some candidates for all underrated in my mind would include Lou Whitaker, Ken Boyer, and Albert Belle.
Whitaker and Grich are pretty a much a tie in my book.

So are Berkman and Belle. I give the nod to Berkman because they both had OPS+ of 144, but Berkman had slightly more longevity (Berkman had over 1,000 more plate appearances) and was less of a liability in the field. Both were solid in the playoffs.

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Speaking of Belle, the mid 90s Indians teams were insane. Take 1996. Thome. Murray. Manny. That's 3 500 HR hitters. Belle, the best player on the team probably. Vizquel. Julio Franco. Lofton.
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Speaking of Belle, the mid 90s Indians teams were insane. Take 1996. Thome. Murray. Manny. That's 3 500 HR hitters. Belle, the best player on the team probably. Vizquel. Julio Franco. Lofton.
and people forget how amazing Carlos Baerga was for a few years
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SP: Johan Santana
SP: Chuck Finley
SP: Frank Tanana
RP: Kent Tekulve
RP: Jesse Orosco
CP: Joe Nathan
C: Lance Parrish
1B: Carlos Delgado or Keith Hernandez
2B: Lou Whitaker or Bobby Grich
3B: Buddy Bell
SS: Dave Concepcion or Tony Hernandez
LF: Albert Belle
CF: Kenny Lofton
RF: Reggie Smith
DH: Hal McRae
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I could do this with just Tigers:

SP: Mickey Lolich / George Mullin
RP: John Hiller
C: Bill Freehan / Lance Parrish
1b: Darrell Evans / Norm Cash
2b: Lou Whitaker
SS: Harvey Kuenn / Donie Bush
3b: Tony Phillips
OF: Bobby Veach
OF: Chet Lemon
OF: Magglio Ordonez
DH: Rusty Staub / Kirk Gibson
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SP: Johan Santana
SP: Chuck Finley
SP: Frank Tanana
RP: Kent Tekulve
RP: Jesse Orosco
CP: Joe Nathan
C: Lance Parrish
1B: Carlos Delgado or Keith Hernandez
2B: Lou Whitaker or Bobby Grich
3B: Buddy Bell
SS: Dave Concepcion or Tony Hernandez
LF: Albert Belle
CF: Kenny Lofton
RF: Reggie Smith
DH: Hal McRae
Nice list, I like how you've filled out the team with a DH, closer, etc.

If I were to do the same, I'd have:

SP: Luis Tiant
SP: Orel Hershiser
SP: David Cone
CP: Dan Quisenberry
C: Thurman Munson
1B: Keith Hernandez
2B: Bobby Grich or Lou Whitaker
3B: Ken Boyer
SS: Bill Dahlen
LF: Lance Berkman or Albert Belle
CF: Kenny Lofton
RF: Dwight Evans or Reggie Smith
DH: Brian Downing


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I could do this with just Tigers:

SP: Mickey Lolich / George Mullin
RP: John Hiller
C: Bill Freehan / Lance Parrish
1b: Darrell Evans / Norm Cash
2b: Lou Whitaker
SS: Harvey Kuenn / Donie Bush
3b: Tony Phillips
OF: Bobby Veach
OF: Chet Lemon
OF: Magglio Ordonez
DH: Rusty Staub / Kirk Gibson
Yeah, Detroit as some really good players that didn't make the Hall and make a solid team just by themselves.
Dizzy Trout was also a really good pitcher, and Rocky Colavito had some really good years with Detroit as well.

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