Hey, pennant guys

[UKCardGuy]

Joe and Greg those are some beautiful pennants.

Based on the RepCo catalog that Kyle found, can we say that these pennants are RepCo issues? (N.B. They're not my pennants)

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Joe and Greg those are some beautiful pennants.

Based on the RepCo catalog that Kyle found, can we say that these pennants are RepCo issues? (N.B. They're not my pennants)

I kinda thought we already could/did.

[ooo-ribay]

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[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I kinda thought we already could/did.

I need to pay closer attention!

Kyle: next up; George Lauterer Badges, buttons, banners, flags.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Joe and Greg those are some beautiful pennants.

Based on the RepCo catalog that Kyle found, can we say that these pennants are RepCo issues? (N.B. They're not my pennants)

Gary, as far as the Chicago pennant, I’d say probably not. There is a “series” of pennants with that leather graphic, I’ve seen at least four of five others. There’s also a Tigers with a leather Tiger head. They have the same construction, two color felt with reinforced edges. These three are mine. There is a White Sox pennant currently on eBay with a screened graphic but otherwise the same construction. And it has a tag on the back from Geo. Lauterer. So that’s my guess.

[thetahat]

Also, the batter graphic is identical to that of a screened 1919 Reds Champions pennant.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Gary, as far as the Chicago pennant, I’d say probably not. There is a “series” of pennants with that leather graphic, I’ve seen at least four of five others. There’s also a Tigers with a leather Tiger head. They have the same construction, two color felt with reinforced edges. These three are mine. There is a White Sox pennant currently on eBay with a screened graphic but otherwise the same construction. And it has a tag on the back from Geo. Lauterer. So that’s my guess.

I just checked my pennant catalog that I've been building and I had a note that the Pirates version of the "Leather Batter" was made by the Chicago Pennant Company. I could have recorded that wrong or maybe both CPC and Lauterer made similar pennants in a cross-Chicago rivalry.

Any guesses?

[cmoore330]

My only RepCo pennant is a sewn letter model. This is the equivalent of owning a classic Mustang, but it’s a 1970’s Mustang II!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by cmoore330

My only RepCo pennant is a sewn letter model. This is the equivalent of owning a classic Mustang, but it’s a 1970’s Mustang II!

That’s funny.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by cmoore330

My only RepCo pennant is a sewn letter model. This is the equivalent of owning a classic Mustang, but it’s a 1970’s Mustang II!

I should be offended by that because my first car was a puke green 1976 Ford Mustang II....but it's accurate. Still it was a Mustang.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Joe and Greg those are some beautiful pennants.

Based on the RepCo catalog that Kyle found, can we say that these pennants are RepCo issues? (N.B. They're not my pennants)

Just a gut feeling, but I don't think any of these were by Repco. The artwork just ... doesn't resemble the same degree of detail that Repco's were known for, in my view. Additionally, none of these feature a no-contrast spine or an Old English or Collegiate Block letter font that seemed to typify Repco's look.

One thing I learned while researching Repco: they had a monopoly on "process" (screen printed) pennants from about 1908-1911. But by the summer of 1911, at least one rival pennant maker named Langrock Bros., also of New York City, had begun making screen printed pennants. By about 1915, several more had joined the club, including Annin, yet another New York-based pennant maker.

Coincidentally (or not so coincidentally), 1915 is about when it appears Repco may have left the pennant market entirely. I have long suspected this was due to this influx in competitors who had entered the marketplace and perhaps even perfected Repco's patented "process" (also known as the Udall Process) into something even better. To this point, I cannot think of a single Repco pennant we can definitively source to them and made after 1914.

I suspect this is when they transitioned to other commercial applications for their process, like indoor advertising.

So although it's tempting to label that beautiful 1915 Red Sox pennant as being by Repco, I think it's more likely someone else made it.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Just a gut feeling, but I don't think any of these were by Repco. The artwork just ... doesn't resemble the same degree of detail that Repco's were known for, in my view. Additionally, none of these feature a no-contrast spine or an Old English or Collegiate Block letter font that seemed to typify Repco's look.

One thing I learned while researching Repco: they had a monopoly on "process" (screen printed) pennants from about 1908-1911. But by the summer of 1911, at least one rival pennant maker named Langrock Bros., also of New York City, had begun making screen printed pennants. By about 1915, several more had joined the club, including Annin, yet another New York-based pennant maker.

Coincidentally (or not so coincidentally), 1915 is about when it appears Repco may have left the pennant market entirely. I have long suspected this was due to this influx in competitors who had entered the marketplace and perhaps even perfected Repco's patented "process" (also known as the Udall Process) into something even better. To this point, I cannot think of a single Repco pennant we can definitively source to them and made after 1914.

I suspect this is when they transitioned to other commercial applications for their process, like indoor advertising.

So although it's tempting to label that beautiful 1915 Red Sox pennant as being by Repco, I think it's more likely someone else made it.

Agree... NONE of those pennants shown were made by Repco. The artwork and composition are different on each of the examples.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by Domer05

Just a gut feeling, but I don't think any of these were by Repco. The artwork just ... doesn't resemble the same degree of detail that Repco's were known for, in my view. Additionally, none of these feature a no-contrast spine or an Old English or Collegiate Block letter font that seemed to typify Repco's look.

One thing I learned while researching Repco: they had a monopoly on "process" (screen printed) pennants from about 1908-1911. But by the summer of 1911, at least one rival pennant maker named Langrock Bros., also of New York City, had begun making screen printed pennants. By about 1915, several more had joined the club, including Annin, yet another New York-based pennant maker.

Coincidentally (or not so coincidentally), 1915 is about when it appears Repco may have left the pennant market entirely. I have long suspected this was due to this influx in competitors who had entered the marketplace and perhaps even perfected Repco's patented "process" (also known as the Udall Process) into something even better. To this point, I cannot think of a single Repco pennant we can definitively source to them and made after 1914.

I suspect this is when they transitioned to other commercial applications for their process, like indoor advertising.

So although it's tempting to label that beautiful 1915 Red Sox pennant as being by Repco, I think it's more likely someone else made it.

Thanks Kyle. That's great info.

Greg and Mark thanks for the insight about the graphics.