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Old 03-25-2025, 01:43 PM
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It is great to see that you can do better crossing from psa to sgc. I tend to buy either and focus on the card and price, but in some circles people say PSA is always better. With vintage that doesnt seem to be the case now. Of course, with the buyout of SGC by PSA, they will be one and the same going forward.

One question: when you send for regrading, do you just remove them from the case yourself first? Is that dangerous to maybe harming the cards maneuvering them?

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Old 03-25-2025, 02:41 PM
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SGC loves their half grades. I wonder what % of SGC vintage comes back with a .5 in the grade? Gotta be soooo much more prevalent than PSA.

That trivial comment aside, those are some beautiful cards.
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Old 03-25-2025, 03:31 PM
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Congratulations on the outcome. Hopefully the $400 you cleared was worth your time and effort.

I'm not entirely convinced that we can really conclude that the SGC label made them more valuable, but for the SGC acolytes, I suppose they're always looking for anything that supports that result.
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Old 03-25-2025, 04:23 PM
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SGC loves their half grades. I wonder what % of SGC vintage comes back with a .5 in the grade? Gotta be soooo much more prevalent than PSA.

That trivial comment aside, those are some beautiful cards.
I just got a 22 card submittal back from SGC yesterday and 9 of them came back with half grades.
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That's interesting about the SGC half grades. In looking back at the cards I have submitted, there are quite a few .5s in the various lots.

I certainly would've liked getting the grades 'rounded up' to the higher number in the binary choice of (for example) either an SGC 5 or an SGC 6, but it seems to be a more precise way of grading.

If the SGC standards say a card is less than a 6, but decently better than a 5, then it will land in a 5.5 holder. That's the right move.
Giving it 'only' a 5 instead would've been a crime against humanity (or against the collecting community, which is same thing)!!
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Old 03-25-2025, 05:14 PM
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I have all low grade type raw cards in my collection and like the .5 grading on cards graded between 1-3. I think it has helped me to become more realistic about comparing my cards to recent sales on 130point. I do like the look of those SGC slabs. Sure am glad I found this website, you guys have so many great cards.
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Old 03-25-2025, 05:15 PM
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Default To answer the question about crossover or cracking

To answer a couple questions….

I started with the WaJo, I submitted it to SGC as a crossover with a 2 minimum which is according to their grading standards the highest they’ll grade anything with markings. They sent it back as not meeting the minimum. After some discussion with SGC staff, I was offered promo discount and resubmitted with a 1.5 minimum which turned out to be the final grade.

For the other two (Cy Young and Matty), I cracked them out and submitted. Having the experience with WaJo behind me, I felt pretty comfortable both would grade at the 1.5.

Certainly wish they all could have made a 2 but was informed that the cards would have to be like mint but with markings to get a 2 rather than the 1.5.
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playball- Congrats! I think the cards look great, and the key is that you are
happy with the result. You made the right call.

Raulus- SGC ''acolytes" are "always" looking for anything that supports a result
that SGC cards are more valuable than PSA? SMH... First, the term
"acolyte" is in itself a dig- lose it. Secondly, I think many collectors are
looking for their cards a) to be graded accurately and b) to look sharp
in a holder. They want properly graded cards that present well. Where
is the harm in that? On the other hand, I have noted that some
PSA "acolytes" can't resist the little jibes. Who has the complex in that
circumstance?

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Would "fanboys" be a better term?
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Old 03-25-2025, 05:58 PM
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Would "fanboys" be a better term?
Apparently acolyte is excessively pejorative!

Fanboy seems a little too gauche to me. How about devotee? I could also get behind enthusiast or perhaps even zealot if preferred.
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One question: when you send for regrading, do you just remove them from the case yourself first? Is that dangerous to maybe harming the cards maneuvering them?
Most companies allow you to submit either in holder (as a "crossover") or cracked out as a raw attempt. Crossovers normally have a lower chance of getting an improved grade, because they cannot always evaluate a card in someone else's slab. For example, try evaluating an edge through a BGS slab. If you send a BGS-slabbed card to PSA looking for an increase or even the same grade, it's unlikely that PSA will agree unless they see the card outside of the holder. However, they will only break the holder if they are absolutely sure the card is deserving of the same grade or better (or whatever you list as min acceptable grade on your form).

As such, most submitters crack them out themselves and take the minor risk, in order to maximize their chance of getting a desired result.
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