Let’s rehash the Bond Bread controversy.

[Johnphotoman]

I asked this question back in 2021; is it Bond Bread or Bond Homogenize Bread. This was around the time I joined net54baseball,com. Now, I had been reading the forum since around 2010. But I joined so I could ask questions about all the cards we call Bond Bread.

It is the trivial details that can trip us up! Most of the responding posts said, see Ted Z post. The trivial details: I was already reading Ted Z post, that's why I wanted to ask the question. And why I ask it on a separate thread.

My thought process was maybe that’s a way we could tell all the many so-called cards we call Bond Bread apart. Maybe the round corner cards were Homogenized Bond Bread and all the other cards were just Bond Bread. After all Ted Z did call the round corned cards -Homogenized Bond Bread - at least saying they came in Homogenized Bond Bread packages. Many others called the square corner cards Bond Bread (W571) and did not use the term Homogenised Bread.

Since then I have done some digging on my own into the name's Bond Bread and Homogenized Bond Bread. The facts may be a little fuzzy, if you have more information please post.

Bond Bread was a product of General Baking Company. The idea for Bond Bread came from William Deininger, president of General Baking Company at the time the company was producing bread under the name "Superior Bread"

The name Bond Bread comes from the term bond, meaning 'a promise or guarantee of repayment of debt'. The company used the name as a way to say its purity of ingredients were guaranteed like it was home-made bread. (From Wikipedia).

William Deininger, president of General Baking Company, chose the name "Bond Bread" to signify a "bond" or pledge of high-quality ingredients, and the company also promoted the bread as "homogenized" for freshness and longer shelf life. Over the years the company grew through mergers with local area bakeries. By the 1930’s the company became one of the largest bread suppliers in the country producing 1.5 million loaves per day. At the time it was even more popular than Continental Baking’s well-known brand Wonder Bread.

Which begs the question, how many trading cards of the D305 did Bond Bread produce and put inside their Homogenize Bread packages? I used to think it was not that many, but 1.5 million a day. That's a lot of bread loaves to put cards into! Now I understand they did not put trading cards in every loaf of bread made per-day, but ⅓ per-day for 6 months will still be more cards than I believed were printed, POP. That would be 3 million total cards, 48 cards to a set would be sixty-two thousand five hundred sets.

The General Baking Company adopted the name Bond as a way to say the purity of its ingredients were guaranteed just as if it was homemade bread. They also claimed their bread was homogenized which they promoted as making their bread fresher and longer lasting.

Here is where it gets a little fuzzy, I believe the General Banking Company started using the name Homogenize Bread after William Deininger held a national recipe contest in 1915 to award the housewives who sent him the best recipes for bread. He received more than 45,000 responses. He began calling the bread Homogenized, like it was homemade. Most homemade bread recipes sent in, used milk that has been homogenized, a process that breaks down fat globules to prevent cream separation, resulting in a smoother texture and potentially easier digestion for some.

My conclusion: I believe the only two cards they should be called Homogenize Bread are D305 and D302- they seem to be the only cards associated with Homogenize Bread. We can not say all “D” cards are Homogenize Bread cards. Just like we cannot say the W571 cards are Bond Bread. Therefore we cannot use Homogenize Bread or Bond Bread to separate the cards into set “D” or “W” sets, but we can use the terms to describe a particular set of “D” or “W” cards. Like saying: D305 Homogenize Bread. We should say the W571 cards are Arrco squared cut cards previously called Bond Bread and then we can say the Buffalo Bisons D301 are Bond Bread cards. John

[Pat R]

Hi John, my friend brought his cards over a couple of days ago so I could look at them again.

One thing that I hadn't noticed the first time was how much they vary in size.

They don't fluoresce under black light so the paper is pre 1950.

The Pafko measures 2 5/16 by between 3 1/2 and 3 9/16
The Sain measures 2 3/16 by a hair bigger than 3 9/16

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[Johnphotoman]

Thank you Pat: Yes, it is a common theme for the Bond Bread cards to be of different sizes. The different sizes of the "Bond Bread" cards likely stem from variations in the printing and cutting processes. It appears they came out at the same time, except for the obvious fakes. The cards we call Bond Bread- includes various card types, including movie stars, baseball players, boxers, and western stars, some of which might have unique sizes or back designs, the various cards could be another reason for the different sizes. John

[Johnphotoman]

I remember when I was in High School, in my printing class- we had a Guillotine- cutter - (no power)- it had a tape measure band, you would move this band to the size, sometimes the band would be off the true size. My first job in printing had to have the cutters calibrated every now and then, and we had two, but they did not cut the same size, its like using a tape measure, they can measure differently; that why you use the same tape measure on precise work, because one could give you a different size. John

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Johnphotoman

I remember when I was in High School, in my printing class- we had a Guillotine- cutter - (no power)- it had a tape measure band, you would move this band to the size, sometimes the band would be off the true size. My first job in printing had to have the cutters calibrated every now and then, and we had two, but they did not cut the same size, its like using a tape measure, they can measure differently; that why you use the same tape measure on precise work, because one could give you a different size. John

Yes a ruler is more accurate than a tape measure. When I mark out my chaulk lines for my tile work I use the 1 inch mark because the ends of a tape measure can get bent or be loose.

[Johnphotoman]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Yes a ruler is more accurate than a tape measure. When I mark out my chaulk lines for my tile work I use the 1 inch mark because the ends of a tape measure can get bent or be loose.

Yes, a great way to put it, the cutting of the cards is the same and why there are different sizes. John

[Johnphotoman]

I started looking into Bond Bread cards, because of photos, I have.
Now I have come full circle. The photos I have may help explain the Bond Bread cards.

I was of the opinion that Arrco had the license on the images on the cards. If not had the original negatives on all the cards we call Bond Bread. Bond Bread most likely printed all the cards we call Bond Bread. But they only had a license to do so.

New information suggest a company called the National Sports photo company, had all the rights and original negatives to all the images on the cards we call Bond Bread.
See the links- for the information on this new information. John.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=359672

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=359423

I misspoke, Bond Bread did not print all the cards we call Bond Bread, information suggests Arrco was the company that printed the many cards (varieties) we call Bond Bread. John