Genuine question, what is with the National staying in Chicago

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Nope, not being overly dramatic here.

I'll check back with you in 4 years, when nothing you claim will befall this world has happened.

Maybe you should stick to legal comments instead of trying to egg on someone who clearly is upset. If you don't care about how he feels, have some class and keep it to yourself.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Maybe you should stick to legal comments instead of trying to egg on someone who clearly is upset. If you don't care about how he feels, have some class and keep it to yourself.

Take your own advice and butt out. He doesn't need egging on. He did that himself.

I've had enough of people jumping all over other people for making jokes. If you don't think it's funny, don't laugh. But this trend in our society to silence others because it hurts our feelings is disgusting. I get he's upset (even if I think it's a result of fearmongering). But that's no excuse to respond the way he did. I'll defend someone's right to make a passing joke every time. It was quite clear the poster meant no harm by that joke, and didn't deserve to be attacked by a drama queen. I firmly believe in what used to be an American principle, "I may not like what you have to say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it."

But I've said my peace. I won't be commenting on this again.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

I am not fearmongering. You do not know how all of the political turmoil caused by one man and his influencers has personally affected my business or life. And no, I have no intention of expanding on this personal information just to prove myself to two people on an internet forum.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

I am not fearmongering. You do not know how all of the political turmoil caused by one man and his influencers has personally affected my business or life. And no, I have no intention of expanding on this personal information just to prove myself to an internet forum.

I hope that whatever problems you’re experiencing in your business and life will be short lived.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by raulus

I hope that whatever problems you’re experiencing in your business and life will be short lived.

Me too. And I thank you and the others who understand that people are being affected very negatively, even if they themselves haven't experienced any issues yet.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Me too. And I thank you and the others who understand that people are being affected very negatively, even if they themselves haven't experienced any issues yet.

I also wish you the best, and hope the negative things you experience are short lived. But that's no excuse for the way you came at that fellow forum member.

ok, now I'm done.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I also wish you the best, and hope the negative things you experience are short lived. But that's no excuse for the way you came at that fellow forum member.

Far be it from me to condone BillyCoxDodger's approach, but at some point, we all need to be willing to turn down the temperature rather than feel the need to respond in kind.

I've long been a firm believer in the proverb: "A soft answer turneth away wrath."

And if that means that we leave something unsaid, or an online posting without a rebuttal, I'm hopeful that posterity will forgive us for letting it go.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Take your own advice and butt out. He doesn't need egging on. He did that himself.

I've had enough of people jumping all over other people for making jokes. If you don't think it's funny, don't laugh. But this trend in our society to silence others because it hurts our feelings is disgusting. I get he's upset (even if I think it's a result of fearmongering). But that's no excuse to respond the way he did. I'll defend someone's right to make a passing joke every time. It was quite clear the poster meant no harm by that joke, and didn't deserve to be attacked by a drama queen. I firmly believe in what used to be an American principle, "I may not like what you have to say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it."

But I've said my peace. I won't be commenting on this again.

Free speech is a great thing and allows people to say what they want without fear of reprisal from the government. But it also comes with the responsibility to realize when enough is enough. To keep going on something when someone has clearly shown they don't find it funny starts to become bullying. We don't tolerate it in our schools with our kids. We shouldn't tolerate it here, either.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Free speech is a great thing and allows people to say what they want without fear of reprisal from the government. But it also comes with the responsibility to realize when enough is enough. To keep going on something when someone has clearly shown they don't find it funny starts to become bullying. We don't tolerate it in our schools with our kids. We shouldn't tolerate it here, either.

I will respond to this because it's important. The only person bullying anyone here was dodgerfan bullying a person who made an innocent joke, not even directed at him. The response by dodgerfan was over the top and uncalled for. Telling him to calm down is not bullying him, no matter how you want to spin it.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Free speech is a great thing and allows people to say what they want without fear of reprisal from the government. But it also comes with the responsibility to realize when enough is enough. To keep going on something when someone has clearly shown they don't find it funny starts to become bullying. We don't tolerate it in our schools with our kids. We shouldn't tolerate it here, either.

I disagree. Although I collect all kinds of kid stuff from my formative years, I'm most assuredly a full adult in every other way. As such I don't require any protection from words. In fact I'm pretty sure I can give at least as good as I get.

[SteveWhite]

What does the Browns possibly building a dome in Brook Park do for Cleveland National? It is near the IX Center. Would be more dining and hotels closer to the venue?

[SteveWhite]

My streak continues, I can really make a thread go cold.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by SteveWhite

My streak continues, I can really make a thread go cold.

I think it was the over-reaction of a couple posters, especially a particularly vulgar one, that quieted the room.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by SteveWhite

What does the Browns possibly building a dome in Brook Park do for Cleveland National? It is near the IX Center. Would be more dining and hotels closer to the venue?

Nothing. Cleveland just isn't the right place given the other options.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Take your own advice and butt out. He doesn't need egging on. He did that himself.

I've had enough of people jumping all over other people for making jokes. If you don't think it's funny, don't laugh. But this trend in our society to silence others because it hurts our feelings is disgusting.

But I've said my peace. I won't be commenting on this again.

Some people think the trend of saying hurtful things without consequences is disgusting. It gets even better when those "funny joke" people seriously consider themselves victims.

And of course you will continue to comment, shitheads always do.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I also wish you the best, and hope the negative things you experience are short lived. But that's no excuse for the way you came at that fellow forum member.

ok, now I'm done.

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Take your own advice and butt out. He doesn't need egging on. He did that himself.

I've had enough of people jumping all over other people for making jokes. If you don't think it's funny, don't laugh. But this trend in our society to silence others because it hurts our feelings is disgusting. I get he's upset (even if I think it's a result of fearmongering). But that's no excuse to respond the way he did. I'll defend someone's right to make a passing joke every time. It was quite clear the poster meant no harm by that joke, and didn't deserve to be attacked by a drama queen. I firmly believe in what used to be an American principle, "I may not like what you have to say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it."

But I've said my peace. I won't be commenting on this again.

Funny how you told me to butt out but you had no problem jumping into the conversation to comment on what someone else had said.